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#1 RCduck7

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Posted 22 September 2007 - 12:47 AM

Got myself a short shifter but i can't remove the freaking pin that holds the old shifter together!!
Banged on it a lot with a hamer on a pin drift after i oiled the pin but it won't come loose.
I'm afraid of damaging the gearbox this way as the original shifter is attached to a small axle that goes to the gearbox.
Any other way of getting this pin out?

Here's a guide of the installation.

http://www.verboom.n...1002/index.html

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Posted 22 September 2007 - 07:49 AM

Other have had the same issue, myself included. You could try takeing the undertray off and prop a length of wood from the ground up under the end of the shifter to take out the bounce when you hit it. Might be able to carefully drill out the pin depending on its hardness. Petrolhead1 found a product that freezes the pin makeing it easyer to remove, yet to hear the outcome of that. Good luck. thumbsup Im sure fab72 will be along shortly with his pearls of wisdom.

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Posted 22 September 2007 - 07:53 AM

has i said a pneumatic air gun will be the best way my vx is five years old so most of the part have age well cant think of any other way as you have to be carefull good luck fab 72 [/quote]

Edited by fab72, 22 September 2007 - 08:04 AM.


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Posted 22 September 2007 - 06:19 PM

Since it is sunday tommorow and don't have a pneumatic airgun at home i'll try to drill it out. ;)

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Posted 22 September 2007 - 08:17 PM

oh my god :o is that a last resort :saw: or is this the simplest way to remove this pin :dry: I haven't done this mod yet but I would like to and from the bits I read of this one the pin seems a pita :sick: should we just go for the give it a tap with a drift and if it goes well done seconded by the drill the bitch out method ???? :wacko:

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Posted 22 September 2007 - 08:36 PM

Other option might be to construct some kind of a press. That way you could apply a lot of pressure on the pin, without a high impact on the gearbox.. Mark

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Posted 22 September 2007 - 08:38 PM

Other option might be to construct some kind of a press. That way you could apply a lot of pressure on the pin, without a high impact on the gearbox..

Mark


Now this sounds good
is there any thing that could be easily modified to do this job ?

I'm sh*t with cars I just want to make this as painless as possible

Edited by scubadaddy, 22 September 2007 - 08:44 PM.


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Posted 22 September 2007 - 09:15 PM

I tried drilling it out earlier, a hss drill wont touch it, just rounds of the corners. Im going to go with press option. thumbsup

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Posted 22 September 2007 - 09:34 PM

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getting this little bastard is one thing :angry: :angry:
the clip under is even worse :9mm:
did all of it and i am glad to enjoy the final result but eh thats life.................. :D
or if not come to see me :) :)


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Posted 23 September 2007 - 08:40 PM

Someone did the job easily removing first the complete shift mechanism assembly.
Remove cables, 5x bolts and you have all the mechanism in your hands... then hammering the pin and removing the clip should be easier.

Take a look:How to remove shift mechanism
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Posted 24 September 2007 - 08:22 PM

Someone did the job easily removing first the complete shift mechanism assembly.
Remove cables, 5x bolts and you have all the mechanism in your hands... then hammering the pin and removing the clip should be easier.

Take a look:How to remove shift mechanism
;)


Thanks, will keep that in mind if nothing else works.

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Posted 27 September 2007 - 08:29 AM


Someone did the job easily removing first the complete shift mechanism assembly.
Remove cables, 5x bolts and you have all the mechanism in your hands... then hammering the pin and removing the clip should be easier.

Take a look:How to remove shift mechanism
;)


Thanks, will keep that in mind if nothing else works.


BTW, if its still of interest... a pipe freezing kit from Wickes or B&Q is a v useful addition to your toolbox for this type of thing. Its an evaporative spray which usually causes at least enough shrinkage to enable release agent to work its way in. Requires a little patience and the willpower to resist hitting stuff with a hammer Just be a little careful on the application though as it is v cold and obviously not all arrangements of parts will shrink in the right direction. Cost about £6.

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Posted 27 September 2007 - 04:44 PM



Someone did the job easily removing first the complete shift mechanism assembly.
Remove cables, 5x bolts and you have all the mechanism in your hands... then hammering the pin and removing the clip should be easier.

Take a look:How to remove shift mechanism
;)


Thanks, will keep that in mind if nothing else works.


BTW, if its still of interest... a pipe freezing kit from Wickes or B&Q is a v useful addition to your toolbox for this type of thing. Its an evaporative spray which usually causes at least enough shrinkage to enable release agent to work its way in. Requires a little patience and the willpower to resist hitting stuff with a hammer Just be a little careful on the application though as it is v cold and obviously not all arrangements of parts will shrink in the right direction. Cost about £6.

cheers


Thanks for the advice as the pin still isn't out.
Went to my local garage for advice and told him about the pneumatic airgun but he just wouldn't go there. :beat:
Instead he offered me an other solution which i doubt would help but will let it known here if it works.

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Posted 27 September 2007 - 04:52 PM

Thanks for the advice as the pin still isn't out.
Went to my local garage for advice and told him about the pneumatic airgun but he just wouldn't go there.




whats wrong with that i believe its the most easy way to do it i did mine last week et voila
french mechanics :o :o :o


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Posted 27 September 2007 - 05:23 PM

Fab Your a Crazy Frog who would listen to you :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Posted 27 September 2007 - 06:19 PM

Ive made a tool which is a piece of flat bar with a recess to clear the shifter body, a m6 tapped hole above with a 7mm clearance hole below, useing an m6 bolt to push the pin through. Had a quick test during my lunch break it, pushed the bolt through about 2mm before the hole in the pin chewed the end of the bolt. So i need to find something hard in 6mm diameter to put between the pin and the bolt.

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Posted 27 September 2007 - 07:59 PM

So i need to find something hard in 6inchs diameter [/quote] a french mecanics you need :P :P :P :P :yeahthat:

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Posted 27 September 2007 - 10:30 PM

Work on the Short shifter is on hold at the moment. I had my local friendly changing brake lines this week and they left me with half air, half brake pedal(very scary if you are in a hurry to stop). It makes for some rather jerky stops at the moment but she goes back tomorrow for further bleeding. I had no idea the clutch was involved as well until I saw the post today. I have advised them on the bleed, invert, bleed, invert, routine for the front caliper airlock. When I get back to the short shifter I am thinking a bracing strut such a piece of 4 x 2 to hold it securely will take some of the bounce out of the engine mounts. Freezing doesn't work as the can cannot deliver spray except when upright. I'm in the procvess of searching for an extension tube at the moment. I did buy a really short pin punch today in the hope I could get a straight hit on the pin with it. the longer ones I had were too long to allow room for a hammer and an in alignment strike on the pin. I do think the gear puller route may produce results I just haven't worked quite how yet. I had a vision of u bolts and exhaust clamps and some plate witha thread through it. Please keep this thread going. Someone has to come up with the answer(Crazy Frog we don't all have air hammers) and I'm sure there has to be a less agressive solution.

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 05:45 AM

So i need to find something hard in 6mm diameter to put between the pin and the bolt.


Small ball from a ball-bearing should do the trick. Usually made from hardened steel.

Stick some grease on it and up it in the hole where the haft is, so it 'sticks' and then use your press.

Bye, Arno.

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 07:09 AM

Someone has to come up with the answer(Crazy Frog we don't all have air hammers) and I'm sure there has to be a less agressive solution. [/quote] when i did it it took a couple of go with the air hammer and i dont think it was a very agressive solution at all and i did borrow the air gun from a friend it was the only to remove it unless i was letting the vaux chimps to have a go lol :blink:




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