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[IceOllie]

What is the 0-100mph and 1/4 mile times. I can't find them anywhere. I am selling my 231bhp RX8 and want to know how the VX220 compares. I read on some post today that some guy test drove a VX220NA and said it did not feel as quick as his Clio Sport. That can't be right. 0-60 of VX220 is much quicker at 5.6secs. What does the acceleration feel like in the VX220? Because of size does it feel as quick as Porsches and M3s etc... Thanks alot for any replies Ollie

[gazcaddy]

From autocar VX220 2.2 NA 0-60 6.1 0-100 17.0 Vauxhall said 0-60 in 5.6, basically the VX is very quick of the line but due to it only having 145bhp its runs out of puff hence the 0-100 time. In contrast the VX220 Turbo has the following figures (from autocar) 0-60 4.9 (Vauxhall claim 4.7) 0-100 12.6 To sum up it will be quicker off the line than your Mazda but once rolling the Mazda will be quicker. Also Cliosports are very much on par with the 2.2 verison, I had one before my VXT and it is an excellent little car with a nice turn of speed. If you want to compete with M3's you will need the VXT. Obviously there is more to the VX220 than straight line speed though. Hope that helps

Edited by gazcaddy, 08 March 2008 - 07:38 PM.

[Yellow_or_black?]

Ollie - given this and your previous thread, have you driven a VX yet? If you're just after a speed-monster - you may have a shock when you get in a VX. The drive is pretty brutal compared to the Porsche's and M3's you mention, and there is a lot more sensory input and features of driving a VX that you have be able to deal with/handle/enjoy to get the best of the car. It isn't just a case of jumping in, pedal to the metal, and having endless traffic light GPs with opponents of your choice. If you want nothing more than a fast, hassle-free, pose-mobile - the VX may not be your best choice. Try and test drive one at a stealer, and see what you think.

Edited by Yellow_or_black?, 08 March 2008 - 07:47 PM.

[mandarinvx]

The 5.6 comes from an NA with a remap, raising the rev limit slightly so the car hits 60 in second (bit cheeky of them really!)

[IceOllie]

I know what your saying 'Yellow or Black'. However,I am not just in for the speed. But I went out in one today, as a passenger, felt quite nice, but not as quick as i anticipated. I do want get one of these because of the handling and the real feel of the road you get. Its not just the acceleration i am interested in - I was just wondering if it feels very quick. I have driven Z4s, S2000 and have an RX8, i was just wondering how the acceleration feels compared to cars like them. P.s. I will be test drving one before buying, dont worry! Just have not come round to it yet - too much work at Uni unfortunately. Thanks for the reply. Regards

[denno]

I know what your saying 'Yellow or Black'. However,I am not just in for the speed. But I went out in one today, as a passenger, felt quite nice, but not as quick as i anticipated. I do want get one of these because of the handling and the real feel of the road you get. Its not just the acceleration i am interested in - I was just wondering if it feels very quick. I have driven Z4s, S2000 and have an RX8, i was just wondering how the acceleration feels compared to cars like them.

P.s. I will be test drving one before buying, dont worry! Just have not come round to it yet - too much work at Uni unfortunately.

Thanks for the reply.

Regards

In a straight line the n/a isnt that quick,especially from a rolling start.The s2000 and 3.0 z4 would be quicker but the mazda would be similar to the n/a.I always thought the n/a would be really quick just because of the 0-60mph time but the 0-100mph tells the better story.If you want straight line speed go for the turbo.On the track however the n/a would eat the s2000,z4 and rx8.

[IceOllie]

Gazcaddy. Just noticed your reply. Very helpful thanks!! A bit confused about the clio. You saying its similar to the NA. How can it be? 0-60 is like 6.8 or something, much slower - similar to the Cooper S I had last year, which is slower then RX8 0-60, which is slower than NA. (Lots of 0-60s lol)

[Yellow_or_black?]

Why do you want to know if it 'feels quick'? Genuine question - what are you after? And of course, all things are relative to what you're used to. I'll be honest with you - coming from my father's (auto) Mercs, I'm disappointed with the acceleration from standstill on my tubby. When you accelerate in the Mercs, it's like Concorde taking off: the power delivery is immediate, smooth, quiet, consistent, and breath-taking. From standstill in the (unmodified) tubby, if I'm maxing the revs, I find first and second hard work; once in third things get better - and when the boost kicks in the car takes off. If I'm already up and going, want to pick up and put my foot down - then I still quite often scare (sh*t) myself with the power delivery in the Turbo. I don't know how the acceleration statistics compare, but the Mercs 'feel quick', to use your phrase, whereas my tubby feels a bit lethargic in the initial stages from stand-still (IMHO). It may be purely psychological though - because if you're hammering it, in first and second the engine is very noisy and sounds as if it's working (too) hard, and I find I run out of revs too quickly. When the boost bites though, I'm like 'Whoah'!

Edited by Yellow_or_black?, 08 March 2008 - 08:13 PM.

[dw1]

The 231 RX8 is no slouch and has fun handling. Having driven both, in terms of accelleration feel an NA wouldn't feel much quicker. In terms of driving experience that's where they differ, the VX is much more extreme and involved. If you move to a VX and want more power feel relative to what you're used to then you'd need to go for a turbo. A turbo 0-100 is approx just below 14s in theory. Stage 2 tune is approx just below 12s. Not sure what an NA is, 15-16ish. The NA runs out of a bit of puff after 80 (not in a big way, its still quick), the RX8 probably has more shove at 80+. Good luck in your quest Edit: I wrote this when there was only one post and in the meantime a whole host of posts appreared and ones that are much better informed on 0-100 times I've got a PerformanceBox data logger and keep meaning to give it a whirl on times - when I eventually do, I'll post these real world times i.e. a time that doesn't involve murdering the clutch.

Edited by dw1, 08 March 2008 - 08:18 PM.

[denno]

Gazcaddy. Just noticed your reply. Very helpful thanks!! A bit confused about the clio. You saying its similar to the NA. How can it be? 0-60 is like 6.8 or something, much slower - similar to the Cooper S I had last year, which is slower then RX8 0-60, which is slower than NA. (Lots of 0-60s lol)

Yes off the line the n/a is quick because of it being rear wheel drive but once it gets going it hasnt got the power.And how many times in the real world do you slam your foot down off a standing start?In the real world your more likely to be moving already and then the vx has lost its standing start acceleration advantage,hence why the clio's etc are just as quick.The vx probably does feel quicker because it has a more envolving driving experience.

[luna_s]

does it matter ?

[denno]

does it matter ?

Obviously does to IceOllie!

[gazcaddy]

Gazcaddy. Just noticed your reply. Very helpful thanks!! A bit confused about the clio. You saying its similar to the NA. How can it be? 0-60 is like 6.8 or something, much slower - similar to the Cooper S I had last year, which is slower then RX8 0-60, which is slower than NA. (Lots of 0-60s lol)

There's more to it than 0-60 times

[IceOllie]

thanks for the help guys. I'll tell u why I keep awing these questions. Basically I want to sell my rx8 for a fast convertible. Being 21 I can't just go out and get insured on a Carrara or Z4 or boxter S. Then my friend suggested a VX220 or elise. Not only does VX look great but its cheapish. I don't do track days but I love driving, and having a little "race car" on the road is very appealing. Then I looked at the performance figures and saw the acceleration was 5.6secs. So then I thought how amazing it will be to have those numbers on a small low down great handling car! I was 100% sure about NA until I heard people saying clios and smilar cars can "keep up". Now I know it may sound petty but I hope that if I was going 50mph or so next to a Clio sport or similar vehicle and we both shoot off I would be quicker. I originally thought the vx220 was a small, amazing handling quick accelerating sports car. Regards ollie

[denno]

thanks for the help guys. I'll tell u why I keep awing these questions. Basically I want to sell my rx8 for a fast convertible. Being 21 I can't just go out and get insured on a Carrara or Z4 or boxter S. Then my friend suggested a VX220 or elise. Not only does VX look great but its cheapish. I don't do track days but I love driving, and having a little "race car" on the road is very appealing. Then I looked at the performance figures and saw the acceleration was 5.6secs. So then I thought how amazing it will be to have those numbers on a small low down great handling car! I was 100% sure about NA until I heard people saying clios and smilar cars can "keep up". Now I know it may sound petty but I hope that if I was going 50mph or so next to a Clio sport or similar vehicle and we both shoot off I would be quicker. I originally thought the vx220 was a small, amazing handling quick accelerating sports car.

Regards
ollie

Its a fair enough question if your going to spend £10k on a car but i dont think the vx is the answer to what your after if im honest.If you want the vx to obliterate a clio or such like when your doing 50mph then it just wont happen,there wouldnt be much in it at all.The vx is about handling and feel,its not a drag car and i get the impression your after more straight line speed which is fair enough but thats not what the n/a is about.The S2000 might be a better compromise for you.

[XXX]

and a VX looks shite with neons......

[Yellow_or_black?]

Its a fair enough question if your going to spend £10k on a car but i dont think the vx is the answer to what your after if im honest.If you want the vx to obliterate a clio or such like when your doing 50mph then it just wont happen,there wouldnt be much in it at all.The vx is about handling and feel,its not a drag car and i get the impression your after more straight line speed which is fair enough but thats not what the n/a is about.The S2000 might be a better compromise for you.

and as stated above. Drive one Ollie - like I said, it's not a traditional posing 'sports car', and isn't just a poor man's Porsche - I think you may have a shock. I have many more years driving experience, and I did

Good luck

Edited by Yellow_or_black?, 08 March 2008 - 09:02 PM.

[IceOllie]

I hope that neon remark is not u insinuating I am a chav - just because I like the feel of acceleration. If it is, very immature, if its not, my bad and I appologise.

[IceOllie]

yellow-a shock in a good way I hope. I will test drive one as soon as possible.

[Yellow_or_black?]

Let us know how you get on. VX's often have a lot of owners in a short time (edit: or get trashed) - somewhat due to uninformed (I'm not insinuating you are) buyers not being fully prepared for the brutality of the animal they have bought. Sometimes it (tubby - haven't driven a n/a) does feel like I'm on the back of a still half-wild horse!

Edited by Yellow_or_black?, 08 March 2008 - 09:37 PM.