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[njc11]

Do you think a 195 / 40 / 17 would be too low profile?? 175x55x17 - 24.58inches (624mm) 195x40x17 - 23.14inches (588mm) 195x45x17 - 23.91inches (607mm) I can get at a very good price! and maybe put 225 / 40 / 17 on the rear??? 225x45x17 = 24.97inches (634mm) 225x40x17 = 24.09inches (612mm) With changing the tyre sizes in this way would you say it would drastically effect the handling? I will make a massive saving on the tyres.. they are going on some " show " wheels Cheers Nick

Edited by njc11, 16 May 2008 - 12:24 PM.

[The Insider]

http://www.carbibles...tyre_bible.html

[don.hasi]

If yes, it's a bit pointless as to have full contact path with the tyre on the road the tyre surface needs to be flat.

Not really... the different compound does further effects...


... after several resistances, Moni II now has new heels

As a reminder, I had before the bridgestones RE040 with 8mm spacers at the front and the balance was for me very fine!

So I have now on the stock rims (5.5 +7) the Yokos on it.

I have done a short warm up on my home-GP with a pure N/A-Hill Result: At a glance into the team's best time BUT ...

I think you know it all unconsciously ... we know exactly what portion of the same route is, something sounds from front left, sth rattles from rear right and something in between easily squeaks...

All the more amazing that all sounds at once are away.... Only remaining the only, the VX and the manifold The bridgestones in the cold state their names in accordance with hard like stone. The Yokos have cold already feel that fingerprints on the profile will left behind when they are concerned, they are so soft ... This is reflected then in their own higher and wider suspension even though they grade so much flat forward and this is not to be expected ...

First I have the factory default airratio given to them, VA 1.7 HA 1.8. The RE040 I had with 1.6 and 1.8 and they are driven with the values still very strong vs. the Yokos. At the front the behaviour is on the round so satisfactory that a big grin never will stop the back, however, it is unusual ... you have the feeling that the rear is activ. Exactly where the RE040 slipped away, the Yokos purely right now go further... a very special sense of the limits of what this wheel / tire combinations can really, you have only taste it step for step and then go through the usual and have the old alarm bells newly recalibrated.

A little bit of the feeling comes high as zz-marcello it had described in our forum in the beginning when buying cheap tires ... one can say what you want against the RE040, but the whole driving behavior is just balanced and what the stability under the rear concerns but rather just like a kart, hard and unyielding. No one can deny the Yoko Combo drive (very) fast, but there is not (yet) the latest confidence and light heartedness.

I will now try different airpressures at the back. This rather would be the opposite, with more at the rear. Time will tell, whether it be probably the softer sidewall can effectively cover ...

The weights, I had already written: VA 19.6kg HA 22.6 kg So, only the rear wheel is heavier, depending on what is left after great hard cornering in the dolomiti .


To look briefly to the visual appearance, though not as great value on it, but since there is less height, there is still more air in the wheel housing. With my "reduction" of the stock suspension it seems to me fairly enough. But you can also trust you parking in front of a restaurant without exact adjusting the steering wheel. The feared "balloon tires effect" from the 205er options doesn´t have become true. Without direct comparison is not necessarily noted that the tyres are not the stock ones in a view of a stranger. In direct comparison, however, clear, we will see that the rims rather for the Bridgestone made .... tute disturbing but as I said.

I will go on reporting.

Kind regards

(Note: most of the text was translated by google... so please excuse any faults )

Edited by don.hasi, 18 May 2008 - 11:23 AM.

[rossma]

anybody else tried this setup ?

[fraser]

http://www.camskill....i...p9475&rs=gb

perhaps?

[joshua]

Replaced std Bridgestones with 195/45 17 Goodyear F1s on my VXT couple of months ago, improved the car in all respects, far better feel, balance, stability, response and grip. Did the same with an Elise S1 I once had with similar positive results. Extra compliance from these tyres compliments my Nitron setup perfectly, gone is the harshness felt with the old Bridgestones yet turn in on a dry track is way better.

[TheRealVXed]

Sorry to dra up an old topic. Due to change my tyres now and want the Goodyears. Some of you have been running the 195/45 R17s on the front for sometime and I just wondered how they are all going for you? Cheers guys VXed

[Simply the Best]

There should be a few threads about the eagles knocking about - I'm sure I posted a while ago when I had mine put on. Not had a problem - but I don't seem to have the same feel and I do lose grip quicker with these; maybe due to the side wall and wider tyre? Great in the dry and in the wet ... a little scary on ice and snow; I can't compare the Bridgies on snow, but on ice I did feel they were better. So for this time of year - I'd say give them a try. All depends on driving style and personal preference I suppose. HTH Edit: oh beware the compounds - some of them were recalled as they were not legal for British roads

Edited by Simply the Best, 05 April 2009 - 05:27 PM.

[TheRealVXed]

I am familiar with the tyres as used to have a Swift Sport before the VX. I am just concerned about the low weight on the front and understeer? THanks

[Retset]

I have 205 fronts and there is no understeer at all. Before my Hofmann's geo there was loads. It's mainly about the set up. You will understeer no more, hopefully a bit less, with 195's but I think the geo is king. If it's already nicely set up then ignore my post

[Code Monkey]

I have new fronts on mine and no understeer, I have tried have pushed gone into corners deep and booted it. Only once doing very silly things did I start to notice. The difference over the warn RE040's is amazing. The profile is 175/55 yup new RE040's Going to be very difficult to ever know if the new tyres of any profile are an improvement without back to back of brand new for brand new, otherwise is just going to be different.

[borgiaz]

I am familiar with the tyres as used to have a Swift Sport before the VX. I am just concerned about the low weight on the front and understeer?

THanks

Good Year 195/45 17 on original rims (turbo) tested yesterday on Alps (Dolomiti, Giau pass )
http://s184.photobuc.....0aprile 2009/
Everything ok, buy it! Bargain at 100€ here in Italy (040 are 150€)

[Lordbenny]

Can I put these on my front 17" rims? http://www.camskill....54b0s2209p58534

[LazyDonkey]

Tyres designed for a MPV ? Are you fcuking nuts? Stop being a pikey and put on OEM bridgies, F1s or Bridgies. EDIT : Apologies not a 4x4, an MPV

Edited by LazyDonkey, 29 August 2010 - 07:08 PM.

[TheRealVXed]

Just to add. Nearly done 10k on the Goodyears and they are great. a few months after fitting I had the Geo set up and that did it for the understeer. The profile/width didn't really seen to matter but the Geo transformed the handling. The goodyears on track days have performed really well. Progressive breakaway hot and cold. Excellent tyre would recommend

[Seb.F]

Other than having a slightly more hard wearing compound and reduced handling. Yes. I can imagine they will fit. Goodyears are a decent tyre yes. And I know lazy will hate me for this. But the bridestones on my car when I first had it were in fact crap. I had to relearn the car after putting 16/17 wheels and KU31s on mine it changed that much.

[Whiteboy]

From what others have said an uprated front anti roll bar seems the way to go to reduce understeer, or less aggressive turn in . Steve

Edited by Whiteboy, 30 August 2010 - 08:53 AM.