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[Freedo]

Hello fellow VX's.... I'm a little shaken up from the email I have just received! Here it is; If you receive this message could you please tell Matthew John Freed to contact me immediately as I have been trying to get in touch re: the VX220 sold recently. I believe the car to have been severely misrepresented at the point of sale and as such will be pursuing him for an explanation. I also believe him to possibly be a motor trader and if this is the case I shall be pushing for compensation via a civil court case. I believe this due to his, seemingly strong, connection to trackprep.co.uk. I look forward to hearing from him, ---------------------------------------------------- Now, when I sold the car it was as a PRIVATE sale via Auto Trader. Him suggesting I have a strong connection with 'trackprep.co.uk' I did but that was just a business idea I was drawing up in the pipeline around a year ago, way before I even bought this car but I didn't go ahead with it due to the 'credit crunch' and all that. The car was a Cat D before I bought it, I fixed it up, etc. He knew this. I shall ask why he thinks I have 'misrepresented' the car. He spent about 5/10 minutes just generally looking around the car, etc. Didn't ask to see any paper work, etc. The car didn't come with full service history. Just the receipts that I had when I bought all the service items, etc which I handed over to him. Am I in any sort of trouble? And yes, the advert WAS a private sale. How should I reply back? Thanks, Matthew

Edited by JG, 11 August 2009 - 02:47 PM.
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[Blue Boy]

Dont worry about it. I had exactly the same thing happen to me last year. I had a little spate of selling cars on the side. When i wrote off my previous VX i bought a very cheap Seat ibiza with a broken gearbox. I serviced it, new MOT a replacement gearbox and sold it on later and made some money. I sold the car to some girl, who brought 3 ppl to check the car over. Test drove twice, and when they picked it up, no problems. Week later had a nasty letter saying that the gearbox has gone, and she got it at a designated garage of her choice to get it fixed, trying to bill me £901+VAT. Also said she was gona trace my National Insurance records, and report me for selling cars. My sister is a solicitor and said dont worry bout it, nothing she can do. It is "buyer beware" when purchasing a good privatelyunder contract law. I had receipts from the purchase with her signature saying sold as seen. I wrote the women a letter back saying at £901 + VAT im considering packing up my job, and training to become a gearbox specialist as theres money to be made in this field. Told her theres no comeback etc etc. Plus i said it would cost her £65 to file a claim in a small claims court for a case your very unlikely to win. And if i hear another reply from you, i'll hand you over to my solicitors, who will charge £12 for every letter they send your, and charged £120 an hour. You will have to pay this fee if you do not win. Never heard a peep since, and that was a year ago. Wouldnt worry bout it. Put the shitter up them. lol Your allowed to sell 4-6 cars a year privately anyhow. My advice is write a sarcy letter back. There may only be a come back if the car sold is unroadworthy e.g no brakes etc etc. Wouldnt be the case with a VX. As far as the CAT D situation, who buys a car like a VX without doing a HPI report?? dont worry ian

[Angelplayz]

I assume you did actually tell him / other potential buyers it was a Cat D?? Also, if somebody can prove that you did KNOWINGLY sell a car with a fault / potential fault about to rear it's head then again you are liable. He is also correct that HOWEVER the car was listed, if you are in the trade then it is NOT buyer beware but you as the expert that needs to make him aware. I seem to remember you do sell specialised sports cars? (thinks back to thread about choosing a company name etc..) Also, remember anything written on a forum can be found and used. Sounds like this guy knows his stuff so maybe opening up a discussion with him would be the way forward to get the full story first??

Edited by Angelplayz, 11 August 2009 - 05:57 AM.

[_JoE_]

From what I'm told consumer law changed last year regarding giving 2nd hand car buyers more protection. However I've had a scan round this morning and can't find a thing relating to this, so may be someone lied to me there. You might find the following of more of use.

Consumer Advice Link

joe

[simsy]

As long as all questions were answered honestly during the sale, then no problem for you. A trader must tell the buyer about issues. A private seller must only answer questions correctly. You do not even have to tell a buyer about the cat 'd', unless they ask.... A trader does.... Good luck. BTW To the other guy with the old Seat car - why did the gear box go again when you repaired it.??? I feel sorry for the girl, but that's second hand cars.... I think girls or boys with no idea about them should buy a new one ( £30 a week ish)

[VIX]

IIRC the car was clearly Cat D from posts on here so no secret. Hope you get sorted. Good luck. PS Looking forward to posts by the new owner.

[Freedo]

Yes, I put in my car advert catogerized. When his girlfriend rang up, she asks what was damaged. I emailed her all the pictures, etc of the build and told her it was a Cat D. Yes, I was thinking of selling specialised sports cars but I've been 'forced' to be a carer for my step mother. This car has nothing to do with that company, hence why it was a private sale anyway. Peace out.

[techieboy]

What are they saying you've misrepresented about the car? What's the cut-off point between private sales and being called a "trader", is it 4 cars per year?

[Muncher]

Plus i said it would cost her £65 to file a claim in a small claims court for a case your very unlikely to win. And if i hear another reply from you, i'll hand you over to my solicitors, who will charge £12 for every letter they send your, and charged £120 an hour. You will have to pay this fee if you do not win.

Err, that's not how it works...

How many cars have you actually sold in the last couple of years?

[Robbo9227]

Hi, I'm the new owner of the car, and have had to resort to tracking down Matthew via here as he hasn't responded to phonecalls, emails or text messages from me or my girlfriend. Right, so here goes, i'm no law expert but what has been done I believe does warrant Matthew actually contacting me back rather than burying his head in the sand and hoping it will go away. I believe Matt to be a car dealer, as found out via here and is a registered trade seller, also as stated on here. His words are 'I am one of those car dealers that are honest and only deal with the finest examples on the market', which this one is quite obviously not. Private or trade sale, Matthew has done things wrongly. The cars milage has been altered, as evidenced by posts on this forum and on the previous MOT certificate, which is dishonest if a private seller and illegal if a trade seller, which could warrant him being reported to Consumer Direct. Also, even if this was a private sale he was asked about bodywork damage within the cars life, with the answer being that it'd had none. This is also untrue as it turns out it's been front end accident damaged twice previously, which Matthew knew about as also evidenced on this forum. Both of these lead me to believe that I should at least be dignified with a phonecall and probably have a case against Matthew. Also, private or trade sale a car has to be sold fit for purpose, which this one also isn't. The car would not pass an MOT due to a headlight problem, and whilst not a huge problem to sort DIY it is most definately a problem when driving the 400miles home in the dark. Quite frankly dangerous. I look forward to hearing from you Matthew, Daniel

Edited by Robbo9227, 11 August 2009 - 09:32 AM.

[techieboy]

Well hopefully you'll both be able to resolve your differences now and probably best to do it in private.

[theolodian]

edit: Too slow on my reply.

Edited by theolodian, 11 August 2009 - 09:39 AM.

[Freedo]

Daniel, Can I please ask why you think the car has been misrepresented at the point of sale? As for myself being in the motor trade? Far, far from it. I am a night carer for my mother. The site trackprep.co.uk was just an idea I had,specialising in the fitment of modifications to cars. This never happend due to a few reasons. The furthest this got was just a website, nothing more. Please note, the Autotrader ad was a Private Sale, not a Trade Sale. It is "buyer beware" when purchasing a good privately under contract law Matthew Freed -------------------- Also I'd like to add, I was very surprised on how little time you took to look over the car. The only thing you asked was if there was any bubbling. Even out on the test drive, you were quiet. You didn't ask to see any paper work, etc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That was my reply....

[Freedo]

I have had 4 cars in total from 17. First over a year, second bought by BMW Mini, third bought by a trader and this the forth being bought by a trader also.

[Yellow_or_black?]

For goodness sake, take it offline. And I'd be pretty miffed if someone posted up my full name without my consent

[boghouse]

Online forum is not the place for this; and won't do either party any favours IMO

[Robbo9227]

The issue has now been moved to email, don't know why you felt the need to post your reply on here as well? I believe the thread could be kept open as I am interested to hear peoples opinions as I am sure Matthew is also. I also agree with the person above and would appreciate it if my full name were removed from the initial post. Thanks,

[Jameshs]

Private sale, sold as seen on reciept. Jog on mate

[danyeates]

Maybe so, but I'm sure "clocking" a car is illegal...

[Robbo9227]

Private sale, sold as seen on reciept.

Jog on mate

Dealer posing as a private seller. Car not fit for purpose. Mileage altered. Misrepresented sale.
Less of the sarcy comments please.

Thanks,