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[Ouchie]

I thought it was because the original planned seats were weaker than the ones we ended up with but some numbnuts forgot to update the design when the seats changed hence the weirdness with seats rubbing when pushed back fully. This might have been speculation so don't trust me. It also does not explain why the turbo didn't get updated when it was an ideal opportunity to fix a mistake if one even existed or was realised.

Edited by Ouchie, 28 March 2010 - 12:24 AM.

[Steve B]

I've not removed everything covering them, but it looks like the hoop isn't continuous on mine looking from the front. The bar looks to be cut and these inserted. Hofmanns commmented to me as well, it was the 1st n/a VX they had the rear clam off and that they could see why the race series didn't like the vx bar due to these. I don't like them and asked if an elise or aftermarket bar could replace it. Answer was Elsie bars won't fit and it'd be very costly and put up with it.

[markv]

I doubt they would be strong enough to prevent the engine hitting you on the head.

Would be more worried about the engine having to go through the fuel tank first

Mark

[JimmyJamJerusalem]

My harness bar offers me far more protection than anything getting through the bulkhead than the flimsy little plates that I cut out.

[fiveoclock]

My harness bar offers me far more protection than anything getting through the bulkhead than the flimsy little plates that I cut out.

I was sitting in the VX in traffic this morning looking at these head rest thingies and the harness bar and I thought exactly that, in fact it seems to be in a better position to do this than what is provided as standard. Now wheres my angle grinder.

[fiveoclock]

I've just gone out and removed these, I've never looked at how they were fixed before, and I cant believe that they have anything to do with strength or protection when they have cut away half of the profile of the roll bar to weld in the plates. The plates themselves are of such a thickness that I cant see them stopping an alternator approaching you at speed let alone an engine.

[JimmyJamJerusalem]

I've just gone out and removed these, I've never looked at how they were fixed before, and I cant believe that they have anything to do with strength or protection when they have cut away half of the profile of the roll bar to weld in the plates. The plates themselves are of such a thickness that I cant see them stopping an alternator approaching you at speed let alone an engine.

Exactly!! When people actually get in and have a look at the flimsy metal the whole 'engine stopper' theory is laughable!!

What you think of the rear visibility now...?

[Yellow_or_black?]

So. They were put there why? There has to be reason. There is nothing in the VX that isn't there for a reason. Suggestions?

[JimmyJamJerusalem]

So. They were put there why? There has to be reason. There is nothing in the VX that isn't there for a reason. Suggestions?

Aesthetics.

[Yellow_or_black?]

Cut into the roll-bar for aesthetics

[fiveoclock]

What you think of the rear visibility now...?

I havent cut the plates off yet, job for next weekend, but even with the plates still in place its a great improvement.

[fiveoclock]

There is nothing in the VX that isn't there for a reason.

The unusable cup holder???

[JimmyJamJerusalem]

Cut into the roll-bar for aesthetics

Cut into a structure to add something 'structurally integral'..?

[Yellow_or_black?]

I know The safety argument was not mine - as I said, I don't have enough knowledge to make a call. That is why I am asking you to come up with a reason for their existence Seems you can't

[Yellow_or_black?]

The unusable cup holder???

I can use it perfectly well, and whilst driving - and without taking my eyes off the road. However, since the driver should not be indulging in such activities - it can be used perfectly well by the passenger

[fiveoclock]

it can be used perfectly well by the passenger

If they are triple jointed

[Yellow_or_black?]

Not really. I can do it from the driver's seat with my left arm. However, all a passenger needs to do is turn around in their seat a little, and reach across with their left arm dear

[Retset]

I was shocked when I took a cover off mine and found that half the roll bar is missing to allow these stupid headrest things. I cannot see cutting them off causes harm (although JJJ's sniper comments are valid ). Vx have already done the main harm by making the roll bar less strong

[rcvaughan]

Vx have already done the main harm by making the roll bar less strong

I have removed mine too. I think my monocoque (spelling??) seats, harness bar and 4 point harness will offer much better protection IMO

Still undecided on whether to get a muncher roll bar cover though....

[smiley]

Still undecided on whether to get a muncher roll bar cover though....

Not as pretty as munchers, but with a fiver in mind: