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#1 zimmer

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 08:20 PM

Despite SteveA's attempts to convert me to turbo power, I've decided I'm going to throw some money into a supercharger conversion. I've done a lot of reading on here but I don't have the time or talent to attempt something like this, so I'd need to find someone else to fit it for me. Sums are looking like this so far... Courtenay = £5350. Job done. Alternatively: You can get hold of the supercharger and inlet manifold for around 800USD for both if you shop well - there are a few blowers going for 250-400 dollars currently, and the odd manifold for about the same. 500 quid for both. Plus shipping (been quoted £88 for the charger so assume same for mani) Throttle body about £100 + shipping (budget 30 quid) Gasket mani to charger 15 quid or so Then import tax on top of that UK parts from courtenay plus RR setup £900 (from joe's project thread) Although rich's list later contains some extras (water pump, oil catch tank, various pipes, clips and filters etc) So maybe more like £1200. This comes to roughly £2000 in parts/remap and setup. 3 days labour - 8 hours a day @50 quid an hour = £1200 Total cost £3200? I know you pay for the drive in - drive out service at courtenay, and aftersales support has got to be worth something, but am I missing something here? Do I start collecting parts and hope someone'll fit them for me or spend the extra on going to courtenay? Rich

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 08:22 PM

Have a chat with leevx chinky chinky

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 08:25 PM

Lee supplied everything and he and Joe fitted for £3,200 ish I seem to think. I do know they are collecting parts for the next conversion already. You will still need it remapped by Courtenay though.

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 08:27 PM

I've already PMed Lee actually, awaiting reply - think he's gonna do a lot of business of he decides to take these on at that price

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 10:07 PM

Parts wise mine came in at a smidge over £2k, although I fitted it myself. I paid another £1500 on top for a full Tullet exhaust system to, so if your still on standard exhaust budget £1k or so for a decent exhaust system too (which isn't included in Courtenays price either).

Edited by Phear, 02 May 2010 - 10:09 PM.


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Posted 03 May 2010 - 07:29 AM

I got a quote from Courtnays for the bits (not including stuff like the hoses and wiring) it was about the same as Lee & Joe did it for all in.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 08:57 AM

This is what it cost me..

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 10:03 AM

is the "Rich List" the definitive list of bits to buy? - can anyone point me towards what i should search for to find this. I have the charger, the manifold and the throttle body, as well as the lightened fly and con rods, just currently trying to get all of this stuff together in a big bag ready for fitting day. :groupjump:

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 10:21 AM

That list is pretty comprehensive but your choices of hose bends, wiring and misc bolts will depend on how you decide to mount things. I did a few things differently to the Vocky thread and heres my advise: 1) Run the charge cooler pipes down the passenger side. I mounted my pump on the passenger side of the bulk head, in total I needed 3 90deg bends and 1 180 degree bend. 2) I used a much smaller pre-rad. This isn't going to be for everyone as its probably going to reduce my power slightly particularly on track days or extend blasts where it starts to heat up. However, it cost me £60 instead of close to £400 for the pro-alloy one and it can be upgraded later. 3) Don't get your pump, header tank, injectors or injector plugs from Courtenays, there are cheaper options out there. Feel free PM if you want some advise. I'd recommend shopping around for everything, although there is some stuff you can only get from Courtenays. 4) Find a local engineering firm to do your dual pass, mine cost me £20! 5) Get some braided fuel hose and re-run the fuel lines. I was hessitant about doing this, but am glad I did as there is now no risk of them touching the S/C belt. 6) Get a 1285 belt and a new tensioner, not the 1270 belt. This is by no means how you should do it, everybody does it slightly differently. This is just how I did it :) If anyone lives in the Midlands and wants to take a look / have a pax ride or some help with their conversion I'm available :)

Edited by Phear, 03 May 2010 - 10:27 AM.


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Posted 03 May 2010 - 11:00 AM

1) Run the charge cooler pipes down the passenger side. I mounted my pump on the passenger side of the bulk head, in total I needed 3 90deg bends and 1 180 degree bend.
This works well, and is how we did mine :) A good call.

2) I used a much smaller pre-rad. This isn't going to be for everyone as its probably going to reduce my power slightly particularly on track days or extend blasts where it starts to heat up. However, it cost me £60 instead of close to £400 for the pro-alloy one and it can be upgraded later.
Or if you don't want to go for the full on pro alloy, get the (bigger) Forge rad for about £270 which includes some of the 90 degree bends and joiners! It really isn't that much more faff at all, all it means is that the front clam will move by about 2mm or so. My bonnet (which might I add I aligned myself in under 15 minutes, having never done one before), also fits just fine with the larger Forge one.

3) Don't get your pump, header tank, injectors or injector plugs from Courtenays, there are cheaper options out there. Feel free PM if you want some advise. I'd recommend shopping around for everything, although there is some stuff you can only get from Courtenays.
Definately not no, pump was an eBay job for about £30 or so for me, injectors I bought for around £60 from someone on here, and header was £60 from All Alloy Fabrications I think was it not? Or around that.

4) Find a local engineering firm to do your dual pass, mine cost me £20!
Yeah this too! Not the ridiculous £100 that courtenay want or something stupid. It's literally a hole drilled in the side of the laminova cap, and a pipe welded on top.

5) Get some braided fuel hose and re-run the fuel lines. I was hessitant about doing this, but am glad I did as there is now no risk of them touching the S/C belt.
Could do that or like mine I have about 6 cable ties holding them onto the edge of the bay now, with about an inch and a bit clearance to the belt. But rerunning is fine if you know what you're doing!

6) Get a 1285 belt and a new tensioner, not the 1270 belt.
I'm running the 1270 and for some people it's fine, however I seriously doubt I could change it at the side of the road..... 1285 is my backup.


This is by no means how you should do it, everybody does it slightly differently. This is just how I did it :) If anyone lives in the Midlands and wants to take a look / have a pax ride or some help with their conversion I'm available :)
Might give you a bell at some point again so we can compare!



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Posted 03 May 2010 - 11:08 AM

i might add that my prices were all courtenay prices. yes i could of shopped around, but everything im getting is brand new, and its includes the remap time aswell. which is £500 or so extra if you source all your parts yourself.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 11:27 AM

Despite SteveA's attempts to convert me to turbo power, I've decided I'm going to throw some money into a supercharger conversion.
I've done a lot of reading on here but I don't have the time or talent to attempt something like this, so I'd need to find someone else to fit it for me. Sums are looking like this so far...


Courtenay = £5350. Job done.

Alternatively:
You can get hold of the supercharger and inlet manifold for around 800USD for both if you shop well - there are a few blowers going for 250-400 dollars currently, and the odd manifold for about the same. 500 quid for both.
Plus shipping (been quoted £88 for the charger so assume same for mani)
Throttle body about £100 + shipping (budget 30 quid)
Gasket mani to charger 15 quid or so
Then import tax on top of that
UK parts from courtenay plus RR setup £900 (from joe's project thread) Although rich's list later contains some extras (water pump, oil catch tank, various pipes, clips and filters etc) So maybe more like £1200.

This comes to roughly £2000 in parts/remap and setup.

3 days labour - 8 hours a day @50 quid an hour = £1200

Total cost £3200?

I know you pay for the drive in - drive out service at courtenay, and aftersales support has got to be worth something, but am I missing something here?

Do I start collecting parts and hope someone'll fit them for me or spend the extra on going to courtenay?

Rich


if u decide to do all the fitting yourself give me a shout, ill give u a hand, working 4 days on 4 off at work now so have plenty spare time, i haven't done it before but i'm a time served mechanical/electrical technician and i know my stuff about cars plus i'm sure we'd get plenty advice on here

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 07:02 PM

if someone offered to do mine for £3200ish then i would definatly have it done.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 07:30 PM

if someone offered to do mine for £3200ish then i would definatly have it done.


If I could get insured on a supercharged VX I would be ordering straight away! :D

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 08:09 AM

if someone offered to do mine for £3200ish then i would definatly have it done.



I'd second that! chinky chinky

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 11:56 AM


if someone offered to do mine for £3200ish then i would definatly have it done.


If I could get insured on a supercharged VX I would be ordering straight away! Posted Image


Posted Image Almost, I could justify the extra £2k worth of preminums!


if someone offered to do mine for £3200ish then i would definatly have it done.


Posted Image If I could find a way to quickly refill the mortgage deposit pot afterwards.

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 02:39 PM

Ive been saving a while for the supercharger conversion but £3200 is a very very good price which i didnt realise members were charging for the conversion Ide definatly be interested in a couple of months at that price

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 09:48 PM

Do you loose the fly by wire throttle with a charger conversion?

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 09:50 PM

Do you loose the fly by wire throttle with a charger conversion?


nope.

it stays fly by wire.

rik has a cabled throttle body on his tho but hes running different management.

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 10:09 PM


1) Run the charge cooler pipes down the passenger side. I mounted my pump on the passenger side of the bulk head, in total I needed 3 90deg bends and 1 180 degree bend.
This works well, and is how we did mine :) A good call.



Did you stick around to help out with the conversion? I wish I had been able to do so when my conversion was done but couldn't get the time off work :(

About the forge charge cooler rad - the guys REALLY struggle to fit them and it wouldn't surprise me if they charge a bit extra in labour if people get them to use the forge in future - I wouldn't blame them if they did

Edited by rcvaughan, 05 May 2010 - 10:10 PM.





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