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[-Dab-of-Oppo-]

Hmm its tough one. Who else has the GT4 wing?

cliffie had
dave as above
matt has one
sling does i think

5oclock and Darcini -

[astravxr]

Thanks mate, whats that last one? anymore pics of that

[G-Bob]

Want that GT-style vent/back window!

[smiley]

Thanks mate, whats that last one? anymore pics of that

Part of ms-design kitt. No longer for sale.
http://www.ms-design...-speedster.html

More pics:
http://www.lotuscars...6/rbf/wings.php

[astravxr]

So if i was to go for the GT4 wing what do i need and what would i have to do to fix it properly? Do i get everything with the wing? If so its just filling the support down then fixing it somehow?

[-Dab-of-Oppo-]

So if i was to go for the GT4 wing what do i need and what would i have to do to fix it properly? Do i get everything with the wing? If so its just filling the support down then fixing it somehow?

You get everything you need with it and if you can live with it looking odd over the lights as per the support strut photo then you could just paint and fit. It has two double ended bolt things that pass through the clam on each side, if you simply sandwich a bit of metal plate on the underside of the boot to spread the load then you can just bolt them through this.

To fit it with it looking good like Darcini's silver car you need to -

Cut the back edge off diagonally exposing the hollow inside so it follows the contour of the light.



Doing this you will lose one of the moulded in gold threaded nut things so simply drill a hole and tap in your own replacement captive nut to screw into.



Build up a new side to it with p40 glass paste leaving a dip to top fill with P38 body filler. Sand to shape smooth everything off, high build prime and spray with a colour matched rattle can from paints4you.com. Jobs a good'n.

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Between the bolts with which you bolt it on the clam, and the bottom of the clam inside the trunk you could insert some type of u shaped metal bracket that pushes down on the part where the clam is bolted to the subframe.
That way at least the downforce goes to the subframe, and will not wring on the clam itself.

Extremely oversimplified drawing, but you get the idea.
If your design is as close to the rear of the boot as possible, you loose minimal boot space.
At the bottom you can even use the exisiting bolt. All you need is 2/3 bolts/holes through the clam on each side at the top.

Edited by smiley, 27 November 2011 - 08:02 PM.

[leevx2.2]

i think the gt4 wing on a black car looks very nice do it

[astravxr]

So if i was to go for the GT4 wing what do i need and what would i have to do to fix it properly? Do i get everything with the wing? If so its just filling the support down then fixing it somehow?

You get everything you need with it and if you can live with it looking odd over the lights as per the support strut photo then you could just paint and fit. It has two double ended bolt things that pass through the clam on each side, if you simply sandwich a bit of metal plate on the underside of the boot to spread the load then you can just bolt them through this.

To fit it with it looking good like Darcini's silver car you need to -

Cut the back edge off diagonally exposing the hollow inside so it follows the contour of the light.



Doing this you will lose one of the moulded in gold threaded nut things so simply drill a hole and tap in your own replacement captive nut to screw into.



Build up a new side to it with p40 glass paste leaving a dip to top fill with P38 body filler. Sand to shape smooth everything off, high build prime and spray with a colour matched rattle can from paints4you.com. Jobs a good'n.

CHEERS thats very helpful i'll bookmark this. I've never used body filler or anything like that before, is this bit hard to get it smooth again?

[astravxr]

i think the gt4 wing on a black car looks very nice do it

I think i will. I'll buy myself a christmas presasnt

[astravxr]

Between the bolts with which you bolt it on the clam, and the bottom of the clam inside the trunk you could insert some type of u shaped metal bracket that pushes down on the part where the clam is bolted to the subframe.
That way at least the downforce goes to the subframe, and will not wring on the clam itself.

Extremely oversimplified drawing, but you get the idea.
If your design is as close to the rear of the boot as possible, you loose minimal boot space.
At the bottom you can even use the exisiting bolt. All you need is 2/3 bolts/holes through the clam on each side at the top.

Ahh i see what you mean, yeah thats a good idea to keep the stress off the clam... i'll easily make something like this. Will it be ok to just bolt metal onto the boot floor?

[-Dab-of-Oppo-]

CHEERS thats very helpful i'll bookmark this. I've never used body filler or anything like that before, is this bit hard to get it smooth again?

Nah it's dead easy if you use a hand held electric sander such as a Black&Decker Mouse it just powders it away to a very smooth finish. Just shape it up bit by bit until you are happy with the curve. I'll have a load more pictures in my project thread when I get round to uploading them and finish fitting mine.

Edited by -Dab-of-Oppo-, 27 November 2011 - 08:10 PM.

[smiley]

Ahh i see what you mean, yeah thats a good idea to keep the stress off the clam... i'll easily make something like this. Will it be ok to just bolt metal onto the boot floor?

If you feel that there is still a chance that the clam needs to be able to move, you could just let the bottom part press on the matt, without fixing. (so it can slightly move)
Just as long as the pressing part is in line with the subframe lines. (of which the middle can be seen by removing the matt. The outer bolts are in the exact middle of the subframe.

Edited by smiley, 27 November 2011 - 08:13 PM.

[-Dab-of-Oppo-]

Not really needed at all on THIS wing IMO. I don't think anyone who has fitted one has bothered with anything more than a bit of metal bonded to the top side of the boot. It weighs very little and even the factory fit Exige just has it going through the clam. If you where to brace it to the chassis it would be better and simpler to go directly down even if it means sacrificing a little boot space. Any downforce that is really able to be transfered via this is going to be so negliable anyway it's probably not worth the bother.

Edited by -Dab-of-Oppo-, 27 November 2011 - 08:21 PM.

[astravxr]

Thanks for info and advice lads. While we're on this topic, what about the turbo spoiler? It would probs look best off but i dont fancy filling the holes and getting the clam resprayed untill it needs done so would i just put grommets in the holes? What do others do

[smiley]

It weighs very little and even the factory fit Exige just has it going through the clam.

When working on yours, could you see if the middle part of the spoiler could be strengthened in any way, as a lot of people has reported to require extra struts when putting it under stress? (which i do not like)

[astravxr]

It weighs very little and even the factory fit Exige just has it going through the clam.

When working on yours, could you see if the middle part of the spoiler could be strengthened in any way, as a lot of people has reported to require extra struts when putting it under stress? (which i do not like)

Yeah i dont fancy putting extra struts in the middle of the wing

[-Dab-of-Oppo-]

When working on yours, could you see if the middle part of the spoiler could be strengthened in any way, as a lot of people has reported to require extra struts when putting it under stress? (which i do not like)

Having not yet experienced any of the reported wobble myself I am unsure as to whether I will want/need to support it more. I did consider drilling a hole in the sides (which would be hidden when mounted) and filling it with expanding foam or alternatively passing a rod through.

I don't think a bit of flex is going to be a problem although I can see how it may look a bit disconcerting in your rear view mirror.

[-Dab-of-Oppo-]

Thanks for info and advice lads. While we're on this topic, what about the turbo spoiler? It would probs look best off but i dont fancy filling the holes and getting the clam resprayed untill it needs done so would i just put grommets in the holes? What do others do

Yeah grommet them up if you want it off. The holes are tiny and they would hardly be seen on your black car especially if you sprayed them body colour. I am 60/40 in prefering the oem wing off but on my car I think it will be staying as the lacquer is marked underneath. :-( Have you checked yours? Might be the determining factor for you too?

Also I did think about covering the holes with a row of venturi / fins along the back edge but reckon they would probably look a bit gash.

[smiley]

Having not yet experienced any of the reported wobble myself I am unsure as to whether I will want/need to support it more. I did consider drilling a hole in the sides (which would be hidden when mounted) and filling it with expanding foam or alternatively passing a rod through.

Was thinking the same. So the middle part is hollow right?