52 replies to this topic

[LazyDonkey]

I had 1155s on one of my cars once. They were borderline dangerous if you forget that they dont work for the first couple of presses. Replaced with standard issue 1144s.

You need to drive my car. 1155s on standard discs and they are good on first press (ie better than OEM), very good on third and amazing thereafter.

Ive had oem, 1144s and 1155s and the latter are definitely my favourite.....even when the car was a daily driver

[Whiteboy]

I am using this now for cleaning wheels, even works on very baked in dust. http://www.i4detaili...g/Iron_X_1.html

Steve

[ghand]

I had 1155s on one of my cars once. They were borderline dangerous if you forget that they dont work for the first couple of presses. Replaced with standard issue 1144s.

You need to drive my car. 1155s on standard discs and they are good on first press (ie better than OEM), very good on third and amazing thereafter.

Ive had oem, 1144s and 1155s and the latter are definitely my favourite.....even when the car was a daily driver

I would love to know why folk have such different views or why the cars seem to be so different.

My car on 1155s just did fcuk all on the first press from wet and cold,It was frightening.I dont mean not very good I mean nothing happened.They stopped superbly well after that.Disks are drilled and grooved.But why such a big difference ?

[elwill]

That is weird. My 1155s are significantly better than OEM from cold. By the time I've got anywhere they're fine. I can't ever see an issue with them unless I start pulling off my drive and red lining it up the street following by an emergency stop at the first junction. Do you have braided lines?

[ghand]

That is weird. My 1155s are significantly better than OEM from cold. By the time I've got anywhere they're fine. I can't ever see an issue with them unless I start pulling off my drive and red lining it up the street following by an emergency stop at the first junction.

Do you have braided lines?

Yes,

I pull off the drive and brake from say 20 mph 100yards down the road,well I try

I need about twice the stopping distance and when you forget its cold and wet its "oh sh** "

Brakes are superb after that.

The disks are ready for a change but would not think that would matter,any way others have the same problem.

See jonnyboy above

Edited by ghand, 18 April 2012 - 05:20 PM.

[drpau]

Think Ill give the 1155s a try when my 1144s are due a change.

[Bargi]

1155's I found at cold they were enough for normal and gentel braking. If you need to jump on them or brake hard it was squeaky bum time big time. The CL5+ you can jump on fine when cold which by itself for me justfied the extra cost. On top of that they are much better on track for fade.

[elwill]

That is weird. My 1155s are significantly better than OEM from cold. By the time I've got anywhere they're fine. I can't ever see an issue with them unless I start pulling off my drive and red lining it up the street following by an emergency stop at the first junction.

Do you have braided lines?

Yes,

I pull off the drive and brake from say 20 mph 100yards down the road,well I try

I need about twice the stopping distance and when you forget its cold and wet its "oh sh** "

Brakes are superb after that.

The disks are ready for a change but would not think that would matter,any way others have the same problem.

See jonnyboy above

Yeah that is really weird.

I went from standard, low, OEM lines and pads and discs to new 1155s, standard discs, fluid and braided lines. I took ages to decide between the 44s and 55s because I was terrified of exactly the issue you describe.

First time I put my foot on them they nearly ripped my face off from cold, but I suspect that had more to do with not being used to braided lines.

There must be something going on for two people to have such different experiences. Either that, or I have this to look forward to when mine wear down.

The only issue I have now is a big of squeal. I haven't had them long though so I'll give them a bit longer to bed in then trying stamping hard on them.

[slindborg]

Braided lines do nothing detectable by mere mortal drivers unless the oem rubber ones have collapsed....... Which is sodding rare! New fluid would be the biggest feeling improvement.

[elwill]

Braided lines do nothing detectable by mere mortal drivers unless the oem rubber ones have collapsed....... Which is sodding rare!

New fluid would be the biggest feeling improvement.

Yeah? My pedal feels a hell of a lot more heavy and wooden, in a good way, since. I assumed that was the lines more than pads etc...

[ArticMonkey]

Doubt anyone would feel a difference with braided lines fitted (even though Ive just had some on). When they flushed new fluid through, that would help and be more noticeable. By the sounds of it people arnt giving the pads a heat cycle before stopping. Most fastroad/ track pads need to be at the right temp to be working their best. If I dont stop hard 3-4 times on my pagid rc14's they are crap, once warm you can't make them fade, infact they will lock the wheels up if you stamp on them. Just try some 40-20 stops then 60-30 stops 3-4 times and see if that makes a difference.

Edited by ArticMonkey, 18 April 2012 - 09:16 PM.

[slindborg]

Braided lines do nothing detectable by mere mortal drivers unless the oem rubber ones have collapsed....... Which is sodding rare!

New fluid would be the biggest feeling improvement.

Yeah? My pedal feels a hell of a lot more heavy and wooden, in a good way, since. I assumed that was the lines more than pads etc...

New fluid makes a world of difference to pedal feel ESP that tarry treacle crap that yours had in it

[elwill]

Braided lines do nothing detectable by mere mortal drivers unless the oem rubber ones have collapsed....... Which is sodding rare!

New fluid would be the biggest feeling improvement.

Yeah? My pedal feels a hell of a lot more heavy and wooden, in a good way, since. I assumed that was the lines more than pads etc...

New fluid makes a world of difference to pedal feel ESP that tarry treacle crap that yours had in it

Oi! You've never seen my brake fluid!





.......but yes it was most likely horrible.

[elwill]

I pull off the drive and brake from say 20 mph 100yards down the road,well I try

Most fastroad/ track pads need to be at the right temp to be working their best. If I dont stop hard 3-4 times on my pagid rc14's they are crap, once warm you can't make them fade, infact they will lock the wheels up if you stamp on them.

Just try some 40-20 stops then 60-30 stops 3-4 times and see if that makes a difference.

You miss the point, of course brakes need heat to work most effectively, but 40-20 stops are not going to help if you struggle to stop from 20.

The question is why do some people running 1155s (i.e. me) have very effective stopping power, and some people (i.e. ghand) have very little.

[ArticMonkey]

His opinion on stopping force could be very different to yours. Another reason could be the discs not having formed an even face for the pad to contact. You should really change the pad with discs at the same time.

[Scotty 22]

I found the 1155's fine for fast road driving and had good bite from cold even on standard disks. The odd time the car is outside overnight and moisture has effected the face of the disk the initial bite is poor until the disks are cleared. Is this maybe what people are experiencing? As for wheel protection, if you use G Techniq coating and sealant you will not need to faff about with alloy wheel cleaner as the brake dust will come off with a blast of the jet wash.

[hughcam]

Well i bought some m1155 and new mintex discs from camskill in the end. I will be fitting on saturday so will give a comparison of them vs m1144's soonish

[LazyDonkey]

Could it be something to do with how they were bedded in? Mine were, ahem, bedded in at Knockhill and have been great ever since then.

[ghand]

The problem I had with cold 1155s must have been down to the disks,Drilled and grooved but old and well worn. Just put new standard disks on with new 1155s and the brakes are better from cold and wet than my standard pads and are very very good. Did not realize just how sh** my old disks and pad have been.I think it just creeps up on you,I must have just gradually pressed harder without realizing. First stop today and I got whip lash,Like a kid with a new toy ,keep trying them Oh and I borrowed a tool to push the rear pistons in,that was a good plan,only took seconds. So its a big yes to 1155s from me .(with decent disks that is )

Edited by ghand, 29 April 2012 - 03:14 PM.

[elwill]

The problem I had with cold 1155s must have been down to the disks,Drilled and grooved but old and well worn.

Just put new standard disks on with new 1155s and the brakes are better from cold and wet than my standard pads and are very very good.

Did not realize just how sh** my old disks and pad have been.I think it just creeps up on you,I must have just gradually pressed harder without realizing.

First stop today and I got whip lash,Like a kid with a new toy ,keep trying them

Oh and I borrowed a tool to push the rear pistons in,that was a good plan,only took seconds.

So its a big yes to 1155s from me .(with decent disks that is )

Interesting to know.

So last time did you put on new 1155s with old disks? I have to say for the cost of new standard disks I think I'll just do them each time I do the pads.