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#41 Mike (Cliffie)

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:04 AM

And you have to have the toe link kit in order for the brace bar to fit?


No you don't

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:07 AM

come ca


Look at the state of that rear calliper.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:09 AM

shhhhh.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:10 AM

i have the exact same ES kit in my hand, and the inner rod end thread is out of focus, looking at it the inner is the reverse thread one.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:10 AM

Have you looked at the damper Nitrogen pressures?
Are you on Nitrons?
Have a chat with Simon@CF, pretty sure he has seen this before. Personally I would wait before taking the suspension to bits.

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Well, I haven't had the NTR's re-dyno'd since Simon re-valved and rebuilt them to suit the new ARB setup. The "clonk" became apparent on the test drive after Simon and Mike fitted them. I tried the car with the ARB's in place but with the original Bilstein's refitted and had the same noise, so had kind of ruled the NTR's out. Feels like a quite "heavy" knock as if it's coming from low down, just to the rear of the seats - sort of in the area of the rear ARB or leading mounts of the rear lower wishbones. I've been over it with a fine toothcomb and nothing seemed amiss, even with the car up on a lift.

At one point I convinced myself it was the battery moving around at the front and I was just imagining it was coming from the rear and made sure that was properly clamped and wedged in. I even came to the conclusion it must be the ProAlloy fuel tank last year and gave that a good going over when it was in for a service but with no joy. Even needlessly changed the engine mounts after Walshy reckoned it might be them. :wacko:

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:20 AM

bushes?

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:21 AM

I was maybe looking into purchasing this but looks like its a no go with me having a milltek exhaust


I have a 2.5" Milltek and the Spitfire kit and it fits without touching, after a little bit of modification that is.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:58 AM

bushes?


Maybe. The car had the total refresh shortly before going up to CF and there were no oddities before the kit went on. Nothing obvious there though, wishbones move smoothly through the their full arc with no binding and no excess play despite my best gorilla impressions with and without dampers on. Rear ARB seems solid enough and can't feel any play in it's bushes/mounts. Just another thing that p!sses me off with the car, whenever I actually think about it for long enough.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:06 AM


Have you looked at the damper Nitrogen pressures?
Are you on Nitrons?
Have a chat with Simon@CF, pretty sure he has seen this before. Personally I would wait before taking the suspension to bits.

:)
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Well, I haven't had the NTR's re-dyno'd since Simon re-valved and rebuilt them to suit the new ARB setup. The "clonk" became apparent on the test drive after Simon and Mike fitted them. I tried the car with the ARB's in place but with the original Bilstein's refitted and had the same noise, so had kind of ruled the NTR's out. Feels like a quite "heavy" knock as if it's coming from low down, just to the rear of the seats - sort of in the area of the rear ARB or leading mounts of the rear lower wishbones. I've been over it with a fine toothcomb and nothing seemed amiss, even with the car up on a lift.

At one point I convinced myself it was the battery moving around at the front and I was just imagining it was coming from the rear and made sure that was properly clamped and wedged in. I even came to the conclusion it must be the ProAlloy fuel tank last year and gave that a good going over when it was in for a service but with no joy. Even needlessly changed the engine mounts after Walshy reckoned it might be them. :wacko:



Deffo contact Simon as he had another Nitron problem which sounds exactly like yours, I think he mentioned the pressure was low out of the factory (this is not touched during a rebuild as the nitrogen is trapped with a floating seal at the other end).

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:08 AM


And you have to have the toe link kit in order for the brace bar to fit?


No you don't


Not sure what brace you have but with the original Spitfire model you needed the toe-link kit brackets to mount it on.
On the newer one you also need the kit fitted first.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:10 AM


I was maybe looking into purchasing this but looks like its a no go with me having a milltek exhaust


I have a 2.5" Milltek and the Spitfire kit and it fits without touching, after a little bit of modification that is.


:) :)

To WHAT!

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:41 AM

On cold running there was no issue but as things warmed up the exhaust hanger was just touching the brace bar making a grating noise. There was about 10mm of meat on the exhaust hanger so I shaved off about 2mm which gave it enough clearance. Had it on for 3 years now with no problems.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:44 AM


bushes?


Maybe. The car had the total refresh shortly before going up to CF and there were no oddities before the kit went on. Nothing obvious there though, wishbones move smoothly through the their full arc with no binding and no excess play despite my best gorilla impressions with and without dampers on. Rear ARB seems solid enough and can't feel any play in it's bushes/mounts. Just another thing that p!sses me off with the car, whenever I actually think about it for long enough.

oil cooler banging on the chassis :poke:

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:47 AM

oil cooler banging on the chassis :poke:


Nope, tried that. Not sure if mine has been located slightly differently over the years and all the changes but it doesn't seem to go anywhere near the chassis. :unsure:

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:48 AM

toe-link outer balljoint playing hardball to remove
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:52 PM

crowbar on top of nut and the upright sorted it

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:30 PM

On cold running there was no issue but as things warmed up the exhaust hanger was just touching the brace bar making a grating noise. There was about 10mm of meat on the exhaust hanger so I shaved off about 2mm which gave it enough clearance. Had it on for 3 years now with no problems.


Nice work Sir!
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:50 PM


bushes?


Maybe. The car had the total refresh shortly before going up to CF and there were no oddities before the kit went on. Nothing obvious there though, wishbones move smoothly through the their full arc with no binding and no excess play despite my best gorilla impressions with and without dampers on. Rear ARB seems solid enough and can't feel any play in it's bushes/mounts. Just another thing that p!sses me off with the car, whenever I actually think about it for long enough.

What type of material is used for the rear anti-roll bushes? I have uprated front bushes and when they dry out it feels like the front end is about to snap off!




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