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#21 siztenboots

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 07:56 AM

I am beginning to wonder if you have a vacuum leak somewhere causing the recirc valve to act funny. To way to prove that is disable as much of the vacuum hoses and joints and just have a T piece from the inlet manifold , and the fuel pressure regulator and the recirc valve direct. Also blank off the vacuum feed to the fuel tank carbon canister breather. Then the only leak can be brake servo or the recirc valve itself.

 

Vacuum leaks cause poor idle and and small throttle angles , then engine will draw unmetered air through the leak, rather then the MAF. It would also give a overall error on short term fuel trims and long term.

 

Actuators do fail , even the uprated ones.

 

When was the ignition system last serviced , ie. coil pack and plugs



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Posted 05 June 2014 - 10:23 AM

Plugs are less than a year old, Denso Irridiums. As for the Coil Pack, I'm not sure, not in my ownership (2.2 years?). But it looks like new, shows no signs of ingress and the contacts are spotless. The car itself has only done 38k.



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Posted 05 June 2014 - 10:47 AM

tbh P0130 could be a number of things, you really need to read the freeze frame data to get more detail as it could be either

 

O2 Sensor Circuit High Voltage (Bank 1 Sensor 1) Oxygen sensor voltage is greater than 1.5 V (Short circuit to voltage)

 

O2 Sensor Circuit Low Voltage (Bank 1 Sensor 1) Oxygen sensor voltage is less than 60 mV (Short circuit to ground)

 

O2 Sensor Circuit Slow Response (Bank 1 Sensor 1) The control unit recognises the malfunction of the circuit via an internal evaluation logic.

 

O2 sensor circuit malfunction (Bank 1 Sensor 1) Oxygen sensor control limit "lean" was reached for 18 s

 

O2 sensor circuit malfunction (Bank 1 Sensor 1) Oxygen sensor control limit "rich" was reached for 18 s

 



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Posted 05 June 2014 - 11:29 PM

An update for the sake of anybody facing similar issues, I picked up a new Bosh pre-cat Lambda today and made the switch this evening in a dramatic race against the fading light.  And well, I'm pleased to report that I might have nailed it! I reset the EML and started it up with the new plug in whilst monitoring the OBD readouts that it was providing and the difference was obvious even at idle, where as previously, it was, from cold, peaking at 1.1 V top end, the new sensor was topping out at 0.7v, and seemed to be polling more frequently. I watched with baited breath to see if after a min or so it would flat line and default to open loop settings, but, much to my delight, after 5 mins of waiting for the worst it was still ticking away soundly and within the expected parameters. Unable to contain my excitement I left the reader ticking over, and took it for a spin. Once again, the difference was instantaneously noticeable, there was absolutely no latency, hesitation or lack of power while pulling away. The next thing I tried to do was to force the turbo to judder/vent under partial load, and after 5 mins of trying I unable to do so through repeated attempts in numerous gears, this is something that I was previously able to either force or drive around with 100% success. Finally, once I was convinced she had fully warmed and I had made my way to the now empty dual carriageway, I was able to test power delivery under higher loads, where, to my delight it was both smooth and grin inducing, rather than on and off lumpy - A very noticeable  increase in power. thumbsup

 

With this test concluded, I thought that it would be a good ideas to reset the ECU of its trimmings, so that it could re-learn with working live O2 readings. Having done so, I took it for another test run, repeating much of the above, everything was the same as before, with the exception of quick high load applications in second, where it now seemed prone to ever so slightly reeling itself in momentarily as the boost spiked. This wasn't present prior to the reset, and I'm hoping that the ECU will be able to 'learn' its way around this as it celibates itself with proper readings.

 

Once again, many thanks to everybody that has taken the time to share their experience or offer an alternate point of view to consider. It's soppy as hell, but without the support that this forum provides I wouldn't have the either the inspiration or confidence to problem solve half of these issues myself. :grouphug:

 

If it's still driving like it was tonight in a weeks time I will be a VERY happy man! :happy:


Edited by Detta, 05 June 2014 - 11:31 PM.


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Posted 06 June 2014 - 05:37 AM

Great news :) thumbsup



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Posted 06 June 2014 - 03:59 PM

Yes, excellent.

 

The lesson to learn here is that all your sensors on the car need careful attention really. They are the only feedback to the ECU to know whats going on, and every single one is important (if not critical).

 

Whats the bosch part number for the narrowband lambda BTW (for other readers who may want to buy one)



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Posted 06 June 2014 - 04:05 PM

I ended up getting this one: http://www.eurocarpa...f09f6b80  

Although I was fortunate enough to get it for £50 all in from the chaps at ECP.



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Posted 03 March 2016 - 07:06 PM

Euro car parts really??? Genuine all the way.

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Posted 04 March 2016 - 08:45 PM

Euro car parts really??? Genuine all the way.

 

8 months late but I would have thought Bosch were a good bet...if not the same as original?






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