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#1 hughcam

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Posted 16 September 2016 - 10:36 AM

Do the lotus 211 front arms offer much more camber over standard? I am trying to decide whether to buy these or the eliseparts steering arms for more front camber



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Posted 16 September 2016 - 11:14 AM

I run the EP arms on mine, my camber is I think the best compromise now between braking  , damper setting for anti-dive and tyre performance.

 

If you don't have the 1" arb fitted, I would do that first.



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Posted 16 September 2016 - 01:03 PM

Id like a longer lower wishbone

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 11:18 AM

Id like a longer lower wishbone

 

Aren't the front Lotus S2 ones longer ?

And even longer are the ones onthe exige S



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Posted 22 November 2016 - 07:42 PM


Id like a longer lower wishbone

 
Aren't the front Lotus S2 ones longer ?
And even longer are the ones onthe exige S

Anyone knows how much longer? And are both a direct fit to the chassie?

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Posted 22 November 2016 - 10:07 PM

Top wishbone is 8mm longer than the S1/VX one. I know this because MBR set my car up last year, and spotted that i had one fitted by mistake by a garage a couple of years back

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 08:50 AM

I run the EP arms on mine, my camber is I think the best compromise now between braking  , damper setting for anti-dive and tyre performance.

 

If you don't have the 1" arb fitted, I would do that first.

 

How much camber do you have?



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 09:31 AM

Top wishbone is 8mm longer than the S1/VX one. I know this because MBR set my car up last year, and spotted that i had one fitted by mistake by a garage a couple of years back

 

Fook, thats one hell of a mistake. Car handling must have been interesting!

 



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 11:14 AM

Id like a longer lower wishbone

 

so would I but I am not prepared for surgery



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 11:42 AM

Id like a longer lower wishbone

 

Easy enough to cut and extend really, just takes a little bit of care with the angles and welding. I helped modify a pair 6 months ago, with a 12mm extensions.

 


Edited by Nev, 10 August 2017 - 11:57 AM.


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 12:59 PM

I would say buy en Elise S2 lower + upper arm. => +8mm

(Or the V6 versions that are even wider)



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 02:50 PM

 

Id like a longer lower wishbone

 

Easy enough to cut and extend really, just takes a little bit of care with the angles and welding. I helped modify a pair 6 months ago, with a 12mm extensions.

 

 

 

Any pictures of the work? Or explenation

 

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 06:23 PM

i always thought the 2-11 arms just have a slightly different ball joint orientation allowing you to run lower ride heights without stressing the ball joints.

 

 



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 10:20 PM

i always thought the 2-11 arms just have a slightly different ball joint orientation allowing you to run lower ride heights without stressing the ball joints.

 

 

 

They have this indeed, compared to normal Elise S2 upper arms. But S2 front wishbones are supposedly 8mm longer than VX220 (and S1) front arms.

(Not sure of it's 8mm per side or total track width...)
 



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Posted 11 August 2017 - 08:44 AM

 

i always thought the 2-11 arms just have a slightly different ball joint orientation allowing you to run lower ride heights without stressing the ball joints.

 

 

 

They have this indeed, compared to normal Elise S2 upper arms. But S2 front wishbones are supposedly 8mm longer than VX220 (and S1) front arms.

(Not sure of it's 8mm per side or total track width...)
 

 

Well isnt this strange? Shis should mean the A arms could point upwards in outer end, and the 2-11 are using the same knuckles?

No change of center posistion? 



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Posted 11 August 2017 - 09:37 AM

 

 

i always thought the 2-11 arms just have a slightly different ball joint orientation allowing you to run lower ride heights without stressing the ball joints.

 

 

 

They have this indeed, compared to normal Elise S2 upper arms. But S2 front wishbones are supposedly 8mm longer than VX220 (and S1) front arms.

(Not sure of it's 8mm per side or total track width...)
 

 

Well isnt this strange? Shis should mean the A arms could point upwards in outer end, and the 2-11 are using the same knuckles?

No change of center posistion? 

 

 

No change in position of the 2-11 ball joint center, but it's angled more inwards. So with the lower 2-11 ride heights (A-arms angled upwards), the ball joint will not be at extreme angles.
 



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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:25 PM

If this works, is there any Point buying new knuckles to move the center? will you notice any difference?

 

 

 

 

i always thought the 2-11 arms just have a slightly different ball joint orientation allowing you to run lower ride heights without stressing the ball joints.

 

 

 

They have this indeed, compared to normal Elise S2 upper arms. But S2 front wishbones are supposedly 8mm longer than VX220 (and S1) front arms.

(Not sure of it's 8mm per side or total track width...)
 

 

Well isnt this strange? Shis should mean the A arms could point upwards in outer end, and the 2-11 are using the same knuckles?

No change of center posistion? 

 

 

No change in position of the 2-11 ball joint center, but it's angled more inwards. So with the lower 2-11 ride heights (A-arms angled upwards), the ball joint will not be at extreme angles.
 

 

 



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Posted 11 August 2017 - 04:15 PM

If this works, is there any Point buying new knuckles to move the center? will you notice any difference?

 

 

 

 

 

No change in position of the 2-11 ball joint center, but it's angled more inwards. So with the lower 2-11 ride heights (A-arms angled upwards), the ball joint will not be at extreme angles.
 

 

 

 

If this works for what?? :unsure:

The pivot center of the upper ball joint will not change with 2-11 arms...



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Posted 11 August 2017 - 05:41 PM

Do the lotus 211 front arms offer much more camber over standard? I am trying to decide whether to buy these or the eliseparts steering arms for more front camber

You could machine the standered steering arms down  for more  camber 



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Posted 11 August 2017 - 08:31 PM

I me an works for good cornering.
Anyone tried knuckles with raised center?
Amy difference in cornering?



If this works, is there any Point buying new knuckles to move the center? will you notice any difference?
 


 


 


 

 
No change in position of the 2-11 ball joint center, but it's angled more inwards. So with the lower 2-11 ride heights (A-arms angled upwards), the ball joint will not be at extreme angles.
 
 
 
 
If this works for what?? :unsure:
The pivot center of the upper ball joint will not change with 2-11 arms...





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