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#61 speedster

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 11:46 AM

In case anyone is interested, i'll post this < link > to a sweedish guy who has swapped his 2.2 for a SAAB LM850 turbo engine from a 9-3 (i think).


Phew! Amazing. :rolleyes: Wonder how it handles? Would the ECU replacement work on an standard 2.2 Ecotec?

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 12:03 PM

Phew! Amazing.  Wonder how it handles? Would the ECU replacement work on an standard 2.2 Ecotec?


Probably not - think its custom for the SAAB. Couldn't say for sure, though...

Cheers, Paul.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 02:15 PM

No, the SAAB has another ECU. The Badster has a stand-alone NIRA system.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 09:25 PM

RSM Racing have sorted out my SuperCharger installation. :) Here is what I am getting: - Stage I SC kit with the following mods - extra long blower to TB pipe that will be cut to size - two different blower mounting brackets - two tensioner/pulley systems (one for each bracket) - set of cams with the intake cam that has the hex drive for the drive pulley :rolleyes: Stage one kit is: - Vortech Supercharger - BOV - FMU - Oil lines - Air intake pipes - Silicone adapters - Air filter - All bolts and accessory belt - installation CD This has a total purchase price including shipping of just under 2000GBP. thumbsup RSM can have it ready for shipping in 10 days. Now all I have to do is wait for delivery and make the time for the install! Me a happy chappy :D

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Posted 05 May 2005 - 10:44 AM

RSM Racing have sorted out my SuperCharger installation.


Here is what I am getting:


Out of interest, how will you controll boost with this installation? What I mean is, is the blower constantly "on" boost without the ECU knowing how to dump unwanted boost?

Cheers, Paul.

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Posted 05 May 2005 - 12:53 PM

RSM Racing have sorted out my SuperCharger installation.


Here is what I am getting:


Out of interest, how will you controll boost with this installation? What I mean is, is the blower constantly "on" boost without the ECU knowing how to dump unwanted boost?

Cheers, Paul.

To quote from an article on a Vortech kit

At part throttle, the bypass valve bleeds excess boost to the air, making the impeller of the 'charger as distinctly audible as a taxiing Lear jet.

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I guess this means the Vortech will always be creating boost, the BOV (or By-Pass Valve) regualtes boost flow to the TB :rolleyes:

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Posted 05 May 2005 - 01:03 PM

I guess this means the Vortech will always be creating boost, the BOV (or By-Pass Valve) regualtes boost flow to the TB


Sounds plausable!

Do you know what PSI this chager makes?

Cheers, Paul.

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Posted 05 May 2005 - 01:38 PM

Do you know what PSI this chager makes?

Its a Vortech V9, runs typically between 10-20 psi, Maximum airflow is 800 CFM

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Posted 05 May 2005 - 02:21 PM

Its a Vortech V9, runs typically between 10-20 psi, Maximum airflow is 800 CFM


Holy crap! :o At that PSI you will be running between 17.6 and 24.7 effective compression ratio assuming you keep the 10.5 compression ratio of the 2.2!!!

For reference, Hitec and Regal both run max 15 effective compression ratio. I'm no (mechanical) engineer but those kinds of compressions are likely to cause real stress on the engine?! :blink:

Cheers, Paul.

Edited by paulf-cam, 05 May 2005 - 02:34 PM.


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Posted 05 May 2005 - 03:40 PM

Holy crap! :o At that PSI you will be running between 17.6 and 24.7 effective compression ratio assuming you keep the 10.5 compression ratio of the 2.2!!!

Don't worry........ and keep you knickers on! :P I won't be bringing her above 250hp :rolleyes:

There are loads of 2.2 Ecotecs running with the Vortech set-up. Browse around the boost section at j-body.org

Word there is for 2.4 / 2.2 Ecotec
- 6-8 PSI Non-Intercooled with proper fuel and timing mods
- 8-12 PSI Intercooled with proper fuel and timing mods


5 PSI I reckon is my starting point :)

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Posted 05 May 2005 - 04:59 PM

Don't worry........ and keep you knickers on!


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Word there is for 2.4 / 2.2 Ecotec
- 6-8 PSI Non-Intercooled with proper fuel and timing mods
- 8-12 PSI Intercooled with proper fuel and timing mods


5 PSI I reckon is my starting point


Good plan. 5.8 PSI == same effective compression as Regal. ;)

Cheers, Paul.

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Posted 05 May 2005 - 07:53 PM

Good plan. 5.8 PSI == same effective compression as Regal. ;)

Thanks Paul. I will keep that number in mind.
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 01:17 PM

RSM Racing have sorted out my SuperCharger installation.
:)

Here is what I am getting:

- Stage I SC kit with the following mods
- extra long blower to TB pipe that will be cut to size
- two different blower mounting brackets
- two tensioner/pulley systems (one for each bracket)
- set of cams with the intake cam that has the hex drive for the drive pulley :rolleyes:

Stage one kit is:
- Vortech Supercharger
- BOV
- FMU
- Oil lines
- Air intake pipes
- Silicone adapters
- Air filter
- All bolts and accessory belt
- installation CD

This has a total purchase price including shipping of just under 2000GBP.
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RSM can have it ready for shipping in 10 days. Now all I have to do is wait for delivery and make the time for the install!

Me a happy chappy :D

Speedster,

Your s/c project sound like it's going to be fantastic! thumbsup
Well done for having the bottle to go down this road!

I hope I'm not taking too many liberties by asking this.....

I think it would be really useful if you could put together a 'guide' while you are undertaking this project.
A written guide outlining the pitfalls etc with photos (Haynes style, but better!!!!) would be ideal and I'm sure would encourage others (myself included :rolleyes: ) to undertake this conversion.

Perhaps it could then be PDF'd and kept on the site?

Good luck with the project and keep us all informed of the progress.

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 12:13 AM

A written guide outlining the pitfalls etc with photos (Haynes style, but better!!!!) would be ideal and I'm sure would encourage others (myself included :rolleyes: ) to undertake this conversion.

Hi Rob. Yup, I will put together a set of notes + pics + pizza menu covering the complete installation. thumbsup

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 06:33 PM

You are a STAR!!!! Can't wait to read about it all!

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 11:07 PM

WOW speedster, i can't wait to see the guide!! :) I've not got a vx220 (i hope you don't mind me using the forum guys) but im interested in finding out about the pros/cons of going for SC over LET and this forum is great for it. I just wanted to say good on ya!! and good luck with it all, could you give me the details of the company your getting the kit from please, do they have a website? Regards Jacko

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 07:49 AM

could you give me the details of the company your getting the kit from please, do they have a website?

Canadian Company <<RSM Racing>> If you pop over to Canada for the install they will pay for your accomodation :P I have found them good to deal with, responsive and to the point thumbsup

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 07:14 PM

Griffo has done it. Send him a PM. JJ

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 07:34 PM

Griffo has done it. Send him a PM.

Wots Griffo done JJ? :rolleyes:




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