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#1 rik

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Posted 22 July 2009 - 01:50 PM

I've been building up to this project for quite some time and have got pretty much all the parts, so I made a start..

new hole in manifold for the megasquirt IA temp sensor. You can use the standard temp sensors but have to calibrate them which I didn't fancy doing really, so I got the proven megasquirt sensors. Drilled and tapped to to 3/8" NPT (quite a weird thread but picked up a tap easily enough)

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Same for coolant temp sensor (picked up a spare thermostat housing)

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Manifold, charger, ecu, loom and charge cooler piping all removed (going to replace the nasty clear pipes at the same time)

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this is what you're left with.. only 22 pins, of which i think I only need to reuse 14. The rest will be connected straight into the ms

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relocated relays & fuses.. I hate having these in the boot so finally moved them

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#2 rik

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Posted 22 July 2009 - 01:52 PM

weber/alpha trigger wheel
Notice the TDC marker at 11 o'clock, the red tooth at 6 o'clock (aligns with sensor), and the missing tooth at 9 o'clock.
this means that the missing tooth happens 90 degrees in advance of TDC

http://www.megamanua...m/ms2/wheel.htm

trigger wheel teeth (m) = 36
missing teeth (n) = 1
skip teeth = 18
delay teeth = 8

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Posted 22 July 2009 - 02:14 PM

For what it's worth, calibrating temp sensors etc on the MegaSquirt is a piece of p*ss (should you ever need to do it), I run one on my kit car........:)

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 09:11 PM

yeah you can use "any" temp sensors with the calibration tool :D What have you done about throttle control? Did you build the MS unit yourself? I made one about 3-4 years ago and still not got round to refining the design as there are lots of places to improve the hardware for less cost and most appropriate kit :lol: also want to have a stab at writing some code for it when I get a chance.

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 06:00 AM

thanks for the reassurance on the standard sensors, I will have to give them a go at a later point when it's all running.
The MS sensors:

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 06:03 AM

What have you done about throttle control?


I have made a controller for it using a pic chip and h-bridge of mosfets, so I am using the standard pedal and tb. Will post details soon.

Did you build the MS unit yourself? I made one about 3-4 years ago and still not got round to refining the design as there are lots of places to improve the hardware for less cost and most appropriate kit :lol: also want to have a stab at writing some code for it when I get a chance.


nope, I got it from www.extraefi.co.uk

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 07:25 AM

I have made a controller for it using a pic chip and h-bridge of mosfets, so I am using the standard pedal and tb. Will post details soon.


At the risk of sounding a tad geeky, Cool! :P Please post details when you get it up and running!

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 09:16 AM

Any chance you could make the photos a bit bigger, it's hard to see whats going on :D at an atomic level that is ;) Good work tho mate thumbsup

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 09:25 AM

lol wish i could edit my posts to show the 800x image instead but it won't let me :angry2:

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 03:37 PM

ahh yes the driver you were on about ages ago :D top work. Beat me to it as I have no spare time anymore :lol: Seems like a cunning plan chap. well done :)

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 05:23 PM

Seems like a cunning plan chap. well done :)


do i detect positive feedback?

quick someone call 999!!!! :P :lol:

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 05:25 PM

Seems like a cunning plan chap. well done :)


do i detect positive feedback?

quick someone call 999!!!! :P :lol:



always positive for home brew solutions to stick it to the "tuners" :P

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 05:26 PM

when you get some time make me a ecu and wiring harness so i can 'stick it to the tuners' :D

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 05:38 PM

when you get some time make me a ecu and wiring harness so i can 'stick it to the tuners' :D



I have one in the loft :lol: just needs a loom

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 05:41 PM

send it to me and i will do the loom ;) can be a combined sticking :lol:

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 09:08 PM

Tidied up my chargecooler piping no end

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EGR finally good for something :P

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 09:08 PM

started on the wiring. Temp sensors, grounding points, +12v for the ms are the easy ones..

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the coil pack is a bit fiddle. Throw away the ecu that's mounted on top (as seen with the weber alpha conversion)
There's actually a connector in here that you can use..

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just pull it out with a screw driver

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secured the wires in with hot glue (can be undone if needed). And i'll probably seal the edges of the connector with silicone when it's running so no water gets in, and then make a ally cover to make it look nice

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 09:09 PM

serial connection working, and temp sensors showing real temperatures!

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oh and here's the actual ecu

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 08:20 AM

Going to be keeping an eye on this one. Know so many people who've tried Megasquirt and given up far into the project and gone for an off the shelf ECU. Be nice to see a few more people getting it working and happy with it. Good luck!

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 10:23 AM

when you get some time make me a ecu and wiring harness so i can 'stick it to the tuners' :D


if I were to make up some looms (assuming all this will work :rolleyes: ), would a lot of people be interested? and at what price? :D
I guess pretty much the same loom is required for ms/emerald/dta/mbe etc..

Edited by rik, 27 July 2009 - 10:24 AM.





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