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#1 siztenboots

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 02:07 PM

Two sizes, 295 or 304 , for front brake applications, 16" wheel or greater, to be supplied with standard AP fitment 177.8mm bell and 12 bolts. Both rotor sizes will be noticeably lighter compared to the usual AP 5000 series, 295 = 4.1Kg and 304 = 4.3 Kg , both with 14.7mm airgaps and 48 curved vanes, 6 grooves, supplied in left and right I have asked EliseParts to consider supplying us , replacement rotors will also fit Plans bells.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 02:27 PM

these are different to teh AP elise parts normally sell then?

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 02:37 PM

Any price gen? i.e. RRP normally £500 each 5 sets would be £475 each 10 sets would be £450 each

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 02:47 PM

yes, believe the EP ones are the AP5000 series, about 5.4Kg each, compared to the DV295/25 which is 4.1Kg off the shelf prices for rotors, each, incl. , plus bells and fittings ( taken from demon tweeks ) DV295/25 , £203.73 x2 , plus bells DV304/25 , £210.36 x2 , plus bells the equivalent difference in price ( same bell ) to go from EP AP295 to EP AP304 is an extra £140

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 02:55 PM

Yep interested in a pair of Alcon, don't want CP5000 AP's... Count me in

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 03:22 PM

Am interested, depending on group buy price.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 03:52 PM

so to confirm these will be Alcon or AP rotors?

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 04:01 PM

so to confirm these will be Alcon or AP rotors?


EP already supply an AP rotor, its just that for a 304mm it gets a bit pricey, plus its not stated what model or spec it is, the AP CP3837 would be nice 3.8Kg , but *really* pricey I expect. The Alcon is just as good with a minimal price hike compared to the 295mm

Both would mount on a 177.8x12 bell

references;
cp3837 - http://www.apracing.... 9CG8_2862_1036
Alcon - http://www.hrpworld....eader/591_2.pdf

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 06:33 PM

This is just what I am in the market for so keep me posted regarding GB prices! //Johan

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 06:56 PM

would these require the caliper spacing? I was liking the look of these ones but not the price :- http://www.elisepart...s.php?product=1 £485+VAT If something like this could end up at about £450 delivered I'd be in.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 07:11 PM

would these require the caliper spacing? I was liking the look of these ones but not the price :- http://www.elisepart...s.php?product=1 £485+VAT If something like this could end up at about £450 delivered I'd be in.

Any disc that is oversized will need the caliper spacing. A 3.5mm spacer in the case of 295mm discs and 8mm in the case of 304mm discs (which will need longer bolts).

The £485+VAT you are quoting is for 4 discs (and is pretty good value for bells/rotors), this possible group-buy is only for a pair of front discs as I don't think you can get anything larger on, with the OE Brembo rear calipers (well, maybe 290mm).

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 08:30 PM

think i would be up for a pair of 295 s can you supply the spacers too? chinky chinky

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Posted 04 August 2009 - 08:31 AM

think i would be up for a pair of 295 s
can you supply the spacers too?
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yes , EP include all fixings with their AP, and these disks are the same direct competitors versions in 295 and 304.

I have recieved a reply from Geary , just need to get a package price including his fittings.


Alcon DV295mm rotors 4.1Kg , supplied with 177.8 bells, 12 bolt fitment, caliper spacers package
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Alcon DV304mm rotors 4.3Kg , supplied with 177.8 bells, 12 bolt fitment, caliper spacers package
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Posted 04 August 2009 - 08:41 AM

Alcon DV295mm rotors 4.1Kg , supplied with 177.8 bells, 12 bolt fitment, caliper spacers package 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) Alcon DV304mm rotors 4.3Kg , supplied with 177.8 bells, 12 bolt fitment, caliper spacers package 1) siztenboots 2) alanoo 3) 4) 5)

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Posted 04 August 2009 - 09:23 AM

Sorry am I the only confused one? "DV295/25 , ?203.73 x2 = £406 , plus bells In which case not interested :) As you pointed out the Elise parts set of 4 would be about the same?

Edited by Steve B, 04 August 2009 - 09:30 AM.


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Posted 04 August 2009 - 09:39 AM

Sorry am I the only confused one? "DV295/25 , ?203.73 x2 = £406 , plus bells
In which case not interested :) As you pointed out the Elise parts set of 4 would be about the same?

Well, if the group buy can't beat Deemon Thieves prices then there's no point as you say. :P

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Posted 04 August 2009 - 09:53 AM

Sorry am I the only confused one? "DV295/25 , ?203.73 x2 = £406 , plus bells
In which case not interested :) As you pointed out the Elise parts set of 4 would be about the same?



As said, this does not include the bells and fasteners, so you'll have to add something like 150£ to that price, and that's only for a pair :groupjump:

I'll be happy if they end up to something in the £550 range

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Posted 04 August 2009 - 10:25 AM

yep, £406 for superlight rotors that will wear out. hopefully around £150 for the VX fittings from Geary its only money

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Posted 04 August 2009 - 12:22 PM

Ok, think I'll look at the Elise parts kit instead at half the price :)

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Posted 04 August 2009 - 12:39 PM

Ok, think I'll look at the Elise parts kit instead at half the price :)


they are a lightweight alternative to standard disks, weight is 5.4Kg, rotors made by Hi-spec, 288mm so suitable for front and rear.




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