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#1 martinmulligan

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 04:38 PM

Have recently changed my skinny fronts for a set of rears with Goodyear F1 Assymetrics but on a near full lock i'm now getting rub on the front. Just wondered if any one else has done this and getting the same problem? Was thinking of using a spacer but wondered if you had combatted it in a different way..

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 04:41 PM

turn the steering wheel less?

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:14 PM

turn the steering wheel less?


And i wonder why i love this site so much.

If i asked about stopping quicker would you advise to use a brick wall?

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:17 PM

If i asked about stopping quicker would you advise to use a brick wall?


no just put your foot on the break pedal harder :P

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:48 PM

If i asked about stopping quicker would you advise to use a brick wall?


no just put your foot on the break pedal harder :P


And if you wanna corner faster don't buy a turbo! :gayfight:

Edited by martinmulligan, 09 February 2010 - 05:51 PM.


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Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:51 PM

exactly, you might get the hang of this forum soon ;)

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:52 PM

exactly, you might get the hang of this forum soon ;)


All i wanted to know is how much you need to space the fronts with wider wheels..

Might try SELOC!

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:57 PM

Might try SELOC!


:blink: no need to swear ;)

3mm, 5mm, 7mm

not sure which ones you need, but these are cheap :)

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 06:17 PM

Might try SELOC!


:blink: no need to swear ;)

3mm, 5mm, 7mm

not sure which ones you need, but these are cheap :)


Thanks mate! chinky chinky

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 06:17 PM

What width tyres did you put on the new fronts?

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 06:28 PM

What width tyres did you put on the new fronts?


sounds like normal rear sizes 225/45/17 , in which case he now has a very heavy wheel with an oversize tyre which will also be heavy.

all that weight spinning round as unsprung mass , not good on bumpy UK roads.

to make it even worse , spacers being mentioned as the cure

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 06:50 PM

What width tyres did you put on the new fronts?


sounds like normal rear sizes 225/45/17 , in which case he now has a very heavy wheel with an oversize tyre which will also be heavy.

all that weight spinning round as unsprung mass , not good on bumpy UK roads.

to make it even worse , spacers being mentioned as the cure

:)


This site is starting to really suck when it comes to useful, helpful replies. You've just had a rant over something you've assumed.

Edited by NA Jimbo, 09 February 2010 - 06:53 PM.


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Posted 09 February 2010 - 07:06 PM

225/45/17.. More weight on the fronts actually helps with grip. Race teams use spacers on all corners on different tracks/different set ups so i don't see why you think there is something wrong with spacers. Only bad thing is people not using longer bolts to suit. The car is driving a lot better with wider wheels on the front as it was originally done this way by Lotus. They only put Smaller width wheels on for the car to handle like a front wheel drive car. This is a fact which i can back up as i know someone who worked at Lotus when the car was being made. If anyone else has a helpful answer and not a stupid comment please could you give me advice

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 09:10 PM

What width tyres did you put on the new fronts?


sounds like normal rear sizes 225/45/17 , in which case he now has a very heavy wheel with an oversize tyre which will also be heavy.

all that weight spinning round as unsprung mass , not good on bumpy UK roads.

to make it even worse , spacers being mentioned as the cure

:)


This site is starting to really suck when it comes to useful, helpful replies. You've just had a rant over something you've assumed.


let me know when you have tried this yourself, the assumption here is yours

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 09:17 PM

225/45/17..

More weight on the fronts actually helps with grip.
Race teams use spacers on all corners on different tracks/different set ups so i don't see why you think there is something wrong with spacers. Only bad thing is people not using longer bolts to suit.
The car is driving a lot better with wider wheels on the front as it was originally done this way by Lotus. They only put Smaller width wheels on for the car to handle like a front wheel drive car. This is a fact which i can back up as i know someone who worked at Lotus when the car was being made.

If anyone else has a helpful answer and not a stupid comment please could you give me advice


most race teams use a centre lock wheel nut. if you put a spacer between the two clamping surfaces that it such a bad idea it is beyond explaining

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 09:25 PM

Do not use the flat spacers you can not properly centralise them thumbsdown If you are going to fit spacers use hubcentric spacers job done chinky chinky

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 09:36 PM

225/45/17..

More weight on the fronts actually helps with grip.
Race teams use spacers on all corners on different tracks/different set ups so i don't see why you think there is something wrong with spacers. Only bad thing is people not using longer bolts to suit.
The car is driving a lot better with wider wheels on the front as it was originally done this way by Lotus. They only put Smaller width wheels on for the car to handle like a front wheel drive car. This is a fact which i can back up as i know someone who worked at Lotus when the car was being made.

If anyone else has a helpful answer and not a stupid comment please could you give me advice


most race teams use a centre lock wheel nut. if you put a spacer between the two clamping surfaces that it such a bad idea it is beyond explaining


You are refering to F1 and BTCC. I'm talking about normal race teams who run them

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 09:37 PM

Do not use the flat spacers you can not properly centralise them thumbsdown If you are going to fit spacers use hubcentric spacers job done chinky chinky


Thanks mate will look into it. Thanks for your pm as well!

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 09:44 PM

You are welcome thumbsup

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 12:03 AM

I don't like reading stupid replies, we are all here to help each other??? I would agree, you would be best using hub centric spacers. The good alloy wheel distirbutors will be able to sell them to you, but my experience is that they will (obviously) try to steer you into buy a set of wheels instead. If memory serves me correctly the std rears are ET35. You need as a minimum ET22 for your 7.5 rears fitted to front. That means you will need 13 m/m hub centric. Nice thing about using hub centric spacers is that you don't need long wheel bolts. The bad thing is that they are extra unsprung mass. If your car handles better with rear wheels all round that's fine, I suspect that it would handle far better with 16 inch front with a slightly smaller width tyre.




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