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[SteveA]

(once a month? once a quarter more like)

Pot, Kettle?

My car has done 8K miles on RC5+ pads (on my second set now) with no issues. Checked them the other day and they are still fine.

[chris_uk]

Mine have been on about 12 months now and have seen a mixture of normal roads and track and they are still fine.

[JG]

It not the failures alone is the combination of small things which is why i avoid them: Backing plates too small Small number of failures significant corrosion on some items and there are more which i've forgotten about.

[Rosssco]

It not the failures alone is the combination of small things which is why i avoid them:

Backing plates too small
Small number of failures
significant corrosion on some items
and there are more which I'm currently trying to make up...

EFA

Another user of CL5+ with no issues (although the 'clacking' as a result of pad movement is a tad annoying)

[JG]

[Winstar]

Small number of failures

TBH given the sample size I'd class it as more than a small number, wonder if it is acctually somthing to do with vibrations or unusual loading from the back plate not being the correct size?

[FLD]

avoid CL all together as far as i am concerned.

True, the 5's definitely, but no reports on the 6's being bad as far as I know.

May I ask why? What is wrong with them?

I guess when you say '5' you are meaning '5+'?

//Johan

There were reports of the pad material coming away from the backing plate. Several posts on here and on Seloc but I can't find any now!

Yep check out here lots of people with problems.
Personally I've taken the view that CL tried to create a Pad that is friendly to your wheels and very good braking on track but it's no quite there.

Interesting stuff, thanks for the pointer.

[techieboy]

Might be sporting a combo of RC6 on the rear and RC5+ on the front for Le Mans after discovering that I seem to have one new axle set of each in the garage.

[krambulle]

I've had my CL 5+ on for over a year with no failure yet, knock on wood. I'll just keep my fingers crossed then. //Johan

[KurtVerbose]

Good thread - don't know why it hasn't been updated for two years.

 

I'm trying to decide what to do with my brakes.

 

Here's the current setup: -

 

Brakes: -

11 year old bog standard apart from mintex 1155 pads.

4 channel ABS unit.

Vacuum hose was replaced recently. The servo is in good order - did a test without it and it was horrible!

 

Suspension: -

11 year old bog standard and well over due for a full refurb/upgrade and that's being planned together with a brake upgrade.

 

Tyres: -

Swiss spec-ed ATS DTC's with 205/235 combo. 185/205 in winter.

 

Use: -

Purely road. I use the car all year round in Switzerland so it needs to work in winter - although I don't generally drive it if there's snow.

 

Area for improvement: -

They do stop, although in the wet they're really marginal.

What I'd really like is a decrease in pedal effort. I heel and toe and it makes it a lot easier if you don't have to squeeze the pedal so hard.

 

I think deffo try the CL5+, but I wonder if 4 pots on the front and a refurb of the current fronts on the rear wouldn't seriously decrease pedal effort?

 

The cost within reason isn't a big issue, but I don't want to spend money unless there's a meaningful improvement. Also the visual aspect isn't really of interest to me.

[Paulus H]

What about fitting smaller wheels. It is the same as fitting larger disks.. Clearly the speedo is going to inaccurate, that is the only downside I can see.... I can out brake most cars road or track with std discs and 1144's, freash good quality fluid helps a great deal to avoid fade. Kiindly, Paul

[KurtVerbose]

Fade isn't an issue as it's only used on the road.

 

As regards smaller wheels, just not possible in Switzerland. It was hard enough getting these as they have to be type approved. I also don't want dodgy speedo readings or ABS issues.

[fezzasus]

Kurt, you'll need to look into changing the master cylinder if you want to reduce braking effort, larger diameter cylinder will move more fluid for the same amount of travel so apply greater force.

[KurtVerbose]

Do you know of a bolt on replacement?

[Nev]

Do you know of a bolt on replacement?

 

I would love to know this too, as I want more pressure exerted at the pads for the same leg power.  

[fezzasus]

Suburu WRX *I understand* should fit. (pre 99)

Edited by fezzasus, 04 July 2014 - 12:09 PM.

[Nev]

Can anyone who's done this say what the Subaru (or OEM) part number is please?

[fezzasus]

Very few people have done this, one engineer has in combination with Porsche brakes.

[badgerade]

http://www.vx220.org...em-on-there-vx/

[JohnTurbo]

This is totally wrong.

 

Joshua fitted the bigger M/C to REDUCE braking force and pedal travel.

 

Small M/C = same force (foot) over smaller area = greater pressure applied.

 

The opposite is true of slave cylinders.