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[coldel]

Ah that is a shame cliffe (seen you on youtube btw chasing a 350r around rockingham?) - if you are around next weekend say early sunday morning I dont mind trekking over your way?

[rob999]

It seems pretty simple really. If you have 8k to spend, buy an NA. If you want a turbo either save some more (10k I'd say depending if your funny about mileage etc) or be prepared to chance your hand at a mouldy dog of a VXT.

[Jon Fuller]

Just wanted to say thanks to Jon Fuller for the tour just now, very quick car

You're most welcome.

Good luck with your search.

Jon

[coldel]

...or a cat car?

[rob999]

You may get a Cat Highish mileage VXT for 8k. That would be your choice......to be fair, even Cat D VXT's haven't really dropped to 8k yet. I think.

[ChrisS1]

Just wanted to say thanks to Jon Fuller for the tour just now, very quick car

Think a straight NA might not be for me but loved the look of the VX220 and the seating position was spot on for the sort of drive I am looking for.

I work in Teddington, I just wish I could get mine to work so you could try it out ans see what an SC can do.

Another offer which I'd like to take up

[ghand]

If your a throttle jockey and you like straight line speed and do a lot of "normal" roads its a no brainer you need a slightly tatty or cat turbo,you can spend cash on it in the future to bring the performance up and tidy it. If your happy to be slightly slower on "normal" roads and just give the car some stick on the drivers roads and like to rag a car to make it go some get an na On the right roads my na has been glued to the back of turbos and left a few You have to work the na hard and its good fun but the turbo gives a great surge of acceleration You could do with a pax ride in an na with someone who will show you what it can do as a test drive will not help much,well I dont think I would like to put a strange car near its limits Just to jump in feel the power the turbo is the car and not much will keep up

[coldel]

I refused to drive Jons car even though he offered more than once! Would be good to feel an unmodified turbo and an NA, just to decide what really has the feel for what I am after.

[Lou_m]

If your a throttle jockey and you like straight line speed and do a lot of "normal" roads its a no brainer you need a slightly tatty or cat turbo,you can spend cash on it in the future to bring the performance up and tidy it.
If your happy to be slightly slower on "normal" roads and just give the car some stick on the drivers roads and like to rag a car to make it go some get an na
On the right roads my na has been glued to the back of turbos and left a few
You have to work the na hard and its good fun but the turbo gives a great surge of acceleration
You could do with a pax ride in an na with someone who will show you what it can do as a test drive will not help much,well I dont think I would like to put a strange car near its limits
Just to jump in feel the power the turbo is the car and not much will keep up

There really isn't that much difference in performance on the road. The faster car will be the one with the driver that takes more risks. Where I notice the difference between the cars is when it comes to overtaking. The turbo comes into it's own there, especially if you get a diesel rep mobile who tries to play silly buggers....

Go for either, you will have a blast!

[Bumblebee]

I've got to say what swayed me to get a turbo is that I've never had a turbo car before and wanted something completely different to the clio v6 that i had at the time and because I've had a NA car before that's why I went turbo. I never actually drove any kind of vx before I bought mine (some will probably say im mad) but luckily it paid of for me as I've not regretted it

Edited by Aimy, 19 August 2012 - 09:08 PM.

[ghand]

I refused to drive Jons car even though he offered more than once!

Would be good to feel an unmodified turbo and an NA, just to decide what really has the feel for what I am after.

That may have been a good call ;lol:

I think if you want a fast car you would be better with a cat turbo if you can find one thats only been scratched and that not a joke they get binned for a bit of fiberglass and a head light.

But a nice loved na is a great car and I have had loads of pleasure from mine but after a few years I would like more power

[Bumblebee]

I'm sure you'll enjoy NA or turbo as both are cars good well done for doing your homework and joining the club

[ghand]

If your a throttle jockey and you like straight line speed and do a lot of "normal" roads its a no brainer you need a slightly tatty or cat turbo,you can spend cash on it in the future to bring the performance up and tidy it.
If your happy to be slightly slower on "normal" roads and just give the car some stick on the drivers roads and like to rag a car to make it go some get an na
On the right roads my na has been glued to the back of turbos and left a few
You have to work the na hard and its good fun but the turbo gives a great surge of acceleration
You could do with a pax ride in an na with someone who will show you what it can do as a test drive will not help much,well I dont think I would like to put a strange car near its limits
Just to jump in feel the power the turbo is the car and not much will keep up

There really isn't that much difference in performance on the road. The faster car will be the one with the driver that takes more risks. Where I notice the difference between the cars is when it comes to overtaking. The turbo comes into it's own there, especially if you get a diesel rep mobile who tries to play silly buggers....

Go for either, you will have a blast!

Risks:lol: when was that Lou,I was on my best behavior until Kirkstone pass and the speed limiter had a word

[Lou_m]

If your a throttle jockey and you like straight line speed and do a lot of "normal" roads its a no brainer you need a slightly tatty or cat turbo,you can spend cash on it in the future to bring the performance up and tidy it.
If your happy to be slightly slower on "normal" roads and just give the car some stick on the drivers roads and like to rag a car to make it go some get an na
On the right roads my na has been glued to the back of turbos and left a few
You have to work the na hard and its good fun but the turbo gives a great surge of acceleration
You could do with a pax ride in an na with someone who will show you what it can do as a test drive will not help much,well I dont think I would like to put a strange car near its limits
Just to jump in feel the power the turbo is the car and not much will keep up

There really isn't that much difference in performance on the road. The faster car will be the one with the driver that takes more risks. Where I notice the difference between the cars is when it comes to overtaking. The turbo comes into it's own there, especially if you get a diesel rep mobile who tries to play silly buggers....

Go for either, you will have a blast!

Risks:lol: when was that Lou,I was on my best behavior until Kirkstone pass and the speed limiter had a word

Not directed at anyone that I have driven with one here. Well except maybe the bare foot ninja

[Mike (Cliffie)]

Ah that is a shame cliffe (seen you on youtube btw chasing a 350r around rockingham?) - if you are around next weekend say early sunday morning I dont mind trekking over your way?

You are welcome to come and sample of course.

[ghand]

If your a throttle jockey and you like straight line speed and do a lot of "normal" roads its a no brainer you need a slightly tatty or cat turbo,you can spend cash on it in the future to bring the performance up and tidy it.
If your happy to be slightly slower on "normal" roads and just give the car some stick on the drivers roads and like to rag a car to make it go some get an na
On the right roads my na has been glued to the back of turbos and left a few
You have to work the na hard and its good fun but the turbo gives a great surge of acceleration
You could do with a pax ride in an na with someone who will show you what it can do as a test drive will not help much,well I dont think I would like to put a strange car near its limits
Just to jump in feel the power the turbo is the car and not much will keep up

There really isn't that much difference in performance on the road. The faster car will be the one with the driver that takes more risks. Where I notice the difference between the cars is when it comes to overtaking. The turbo comes into it's own there, especially if you get a diesel rep mobile who tries to play silly buggers....

Go for either, you will have a blast!

Risks:lol: when was that Lou,I was on my best behavior until Kirkstone pass and the speed limiter had a word

Not directed at anyone that I have driven with one here. Well except maybe the bare foot ninja

[Hark]

I was on track at Donington last week. Couldn't keep up with the 231bhp tubby or the standard NA. Both on bridgies. Mines a 255bhp SC. So it just prove a decent (or in my case a crap) driver makes all the difference whatever you go for. Kind of on topic... Do the tuned tubbys get many boost leaks etc. I went for the NA as my highly tuned TT got to a point where I was splitting hoses or going in to limp mode all the time. Got bored of constantly playing find the leak!

[JG]

Do You Really Feel The Difference Na Vs Turbo?

No, Vauxhall thought it would be a really fun game to re-engineer the car, and there was a requirement to flush money down the drain, it didn't matter that it had no effect what so ever.

[LazyDonkey]

Give and take overtakes at or around the legal limit is where I notice the difference. Mark was chasing my car in hoon and whereas my overtakes (in an NA) had to be planned he could just nip by where he wanted. However we did 700 odd miles over a weekend on the best roads in Scotland with na turbo and supercharged cars and I cant remember anyone climbing out saying "I need more power to keep up" More talent maybe but not more power

[coldel]

I'm sure you'll enjoy NA or turbo as both are cars good well done for doing your homework and joining the club

Thanks Aimy, yep hoping to get in an NA soon to see what its like

Although like you, am waivering towards forced induction just because I want to try it. Had an NA before and the driving characteristics that brings, wouldnt mind something else.

That said, I did have a company car, Scirocco 1.4TSi, turbo and supercharged, now there was a strange driving experience!