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#21 techieboy

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 12:37 PM

So buy one, if that's what you want.



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 12:40 PM

The wide range was the point, and 350z would prob be close to bottom on the last but for £10k wud anyone say no to an 05 plate sl 500 merc with 40k?

 

yep, me.

 

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 12:42 PM

And also, go and find out how much a new air strut is on an SL.

 

Might be 10k to buy it, it will cost a lot more to maintain. SC VXs costs around £5 to run.



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 12:45 PM

Though they do cost for than £45 to convert to SC. :rolleyes:



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 12:50 PM

Though they do cost for than £45 to convert to SC. :rolleyes:

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 12:52 PM

So buy one, if that's what you want.

Just thought SC conversion would be in an around £2k which would be worth it as thats good power an performance for £2k but £3.3k! Is it really worth it for 90-100hp? And ot also much effect the reliability which would make the car alot more than £5 to run lol

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 12:58 PM

Get a pax in an SC. Then judge.

 

 



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 12:59 PM

A 350Z comes with far greater running costs than the VX220. You'd have to get a GT model for a start. Then tyres are bigger and more expensive. Services are more due to increased cylinders and engine capacity (or whatever excuse they chose to use). Discs and pads are significantly more expensive. Then you get onto fuel (on track you will see 7mpg) and tax. I really like the engine in the 350Z, it makes a lovely noise but the running costs would become a sore point when compared to the performance of the VX. The 350Z will be a more comfortable place to sit and has the luxury of leather, heated seats and aircon. The same argument applies to all of the cars you listed with the 350 at the bottom of the list. It's easy to buy a performance car but running it properly is where it gets costly.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 01:06 PM

 

So buy one, if that's what you want.

Just thought SC conversion would be in an around £2k which would be worth it as thats good power an performance for £2k but £3.3k! Is it really worth it for 90-100hp? And ot also much effect the reliability which would make the car alot more than £5 to run lol

 

 

 

All I have to say is that I have spent less on the VX since supercharging her than I have on my two sheds that I have had in that period.

 

I would not even bat an eyelid at the reliability issues.  As I mentioned J&L do an amazing job, quick and for what they do I feel is good value for money.  The car is just fantastic now.



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 01:07 PM

And also, go and find out how much a new air strut is on an SL.

 

Might be 10k to buy it, it will cost a lot more to maintain. SC VXs costs around £5 to run.

 

Bingo.

 

I went through this myself when selling my XT, trying to decide what else I wanted. Looked at some proper exotica up to £20k and only the stuff that really floated my boat was going to cost mega money to maintain.

 

That's hte thing about the VX220 (and the Elise to be fair), maintenance and general consumables are cheap. Not so with a £10k 996 911 or SL500 (you'd want the 55AMG anyway unless you were a poof   )

 

BTW I sold an immaculate VXT with remap and desirable upgrades to buy an £8k SC car to use a project. Do what the others say, go experience an SC VX220 and see what you think from there.

 

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 01:22 PM

...but £3.3k! Is it really worth it for 90-100hp? And ot also much effect the reliability which would make the car alot more than £5 to run lol

 

 

So its, what, around a 70% increase in power, for a drive in/drive out price of £3.3k. If that's not a tuning bargain, I don't know what is.

 

This conversion's well proven and reliability is not an issue.



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 01:32 PM

A 350Z comes with far greater running costs than the VX220. You'd have to get a GT model for a start. Then tyres are bigger and more expensive. Services are more due to increased cylinders and engine capacity (or whatever excuse they chose to use). Discs and pads are significantly more expensive. Then you get onto fuel (on track you will see 7mpg) and tax. I really like the engine in the 350Z, it makes a lovely noise but the running costs would become a sore point when compared to the performance of the VX. The 350Z will be a more comfortable place to sit and has the luxury of leather, heated seats and aircon. The same argument applies to all of the cars you listed with the 350 at the bottom of the list. It's easy to buy a performance car but running it properly is where it gets costly.

I would never get a 350z, i just put it down as an option! If truth be told id have an sl 500 over a vx220 sc for the same money any day! Im not bothered about running costs as my day to day car is not the vx anyway

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 01:45 PM

I did it DIY and probably spend £2300 or thereabouts. Handing it over to J&L Motorsports Corp. Ltd. Plc is a very easy way to get a hell of a lot more poke, without stressing the engine too much, for a great £/%bhp increase. Ive always hankered after a Z4M and then supercharging it. Getting someone to do that is about £10k for nowhere near the % increase in performance. An extra 120bhp in a car weighing 830kg is like having an extra 250bhp odd in something the weight of a 911... As folk have said, have a pax or drive in one and see if its for you. I had a shot of one a couple of years back and that was it, straight to the shopping list!! :P 



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 02:21 PM

 

A 350Z comes with far greater running costs than the VX220. You'd have to get a GT model for a start. Then tyres are bigger and more expensive. Services are more due to increased cylinders and engine capacity (or whatever excuse they chose to use). Discs and pads are significantly more expensive. Then you get onto fuel (on track you will see 7mpg) and tax. I really like the engine in the 350Z, it makes a lovely noise but the running costs would become a sore point when compared to the performance of the VX. The 350Z will be a more comfortable place to sit and has the luxury of leather, heated seats and aircon. The same argument applies to all of the cars you listed with the 350 at the bottom of the list. It's easy to buy a performance car but running it properly is where it gets costly.

I would never get a 350z, i just put it down as an option! If truth be told id have an sl 500 over a vx220 sc for the same money any day! Im not bothered about running costs as my day to day car is not the vx anyway

 

 

I'm really confused why you are comparing a VX220 to a SL500... Other than they both look "a bit sporty", they are completely different, especially considering the Merc weighs almost exactly 2x the VX220...

 

As for performance, you'd probably need to look at the SL55 AMG to be able to compare...



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 03:43 PM

 

A 350Z comes with far greater running costs than the VX220. You'd have to get a GT model for a start. Then tyres are bigger and more expensive. Services are more due to increased cylinders and engine capacity (or whatever excuse they chose to use). Discs and pads are significantly more expensive. Then you get onto fuel (on track you will see 7mpg) and tax. I really like the engine in the 350Z, it makes a lovely noise but the running costs would become a sore point when compared to the performance of the VX. The 350Z will be a more comfortable place to sit and has the luxury of leather, heated seats and aircon. The same argument applies to all of the cars you listed with the 350 at the bottom of the list. It's easy to buy a performance car but running it properly is where it gets costly.

I would never get a 350z, i just put it down as an option! If truth be told id have an sl 500 over a vx220 sc for the same money any day! Im not bothered about running costs as my day to day car is not the vx anyway  
  I'm really confused why you are comparing a VX220 to a SL500... Other than they both look "a bit sporty", they are completely different, especially considering the Merc weighs almost exactly 2x the VX220...   As for performance, you'd probably need to look at the SL55 AMG to be able to compare...
Im not comparing as there is no comparison as the merc is a lot more car for the money, thats all i was saying. Dont get me wrong, i love my vx but im sure most of us would rather an sl than a vx sc

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 03:44 PM

A 350Z comes with far greater running costs than the VX220. You'd have to get a GT model for a start. Then tyres are bigger and more expensive. Services are more due to increased cylinders and engine capacity (or whatever excuse they chose to use). Discs and pads are significantly more expensive. Then you get onto fuel (on track you will see 7mpg) and tax. I really like the engine in the 350Z, it makes a lovely noise but the running costs would become a sore point when compared to the performance of the VX. The 350Z will be a more comfortable place to sit and has the luxury of leather, heated seats and aircon. The same argument applies to all of the cars you listed with the 350 at the bottom of the list. It's easy to buy a performance car but running it properly is where it gets costly.

I would never get a 350z, i just put it down as an option! If truth be told id have an sl 500 over a vx220 sc for the same money any day! Im not bothered about running costs as my day to day car is not the vx anyway

  I'm really confused why you are comparing a VX220 to a SL500... Other than they both look "a bit sporty", they are completely different, especially considering the Merc weighs almost exactly 2x the VX220...   As for performance, you'd probably need to look at the SL55 AMG to be able to compare...

Im not comparing as there is no comparison as the merc is a lot more car for the money, thats all i was saying. Dont get me wrong, i love my vx but im sure most of us would rather an sl than a vx sc

Really? You might as well sell up then :lol: Go ahead, start a poll see how many people would swap their VX for an SL.

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 03:45 PM

 

... but im sure most of us would rather an sl than a vx sc

 

 

??? Nope.



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 03:45 PM

 but im sure most of us would rather an sl than a vx sc

 

I'm pretty sure anyone on here who'd rather have a luxo barge like the SL would have already bought one.



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 03:47 PM

wtf? lol

 

I think you have stumbled into the wrong room son :lol:



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 03:48 PM

we have all been lapped by SL500 cornering on their door handles






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