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#21 CHILL Gone DUTCH

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:29 PM

Only turbo ive driven is gbc stage 4 turbo, i was expecting it to be a real bitch to drive after reading about power delivery etc, It wasent dont get me wrong i wouldent give up my stage 3 SC for it because it revs and revs. But it wasent that bad

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:45 PM

Only turbo ive driven is gbc stage 4 turbo, i was expecting it to be a real bitch to drive after reading about power delivery etc, It wasent dont get me wrong i wouldent give up my stage 3 SC for it because it revs and revs. But it wasent that bad

 

must've driven a good one then. 



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:49 PM

Surely you could just put a supercharger on the z20let? I.e the engine wouldn't need to be swapped as it's already set up for boost

 

But how do you get rid of that extra 50Kg off its fat arse?



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:50 PM

Surely you could just put a supercharger on the z20let? I.e the engine wouldn't need to be swapped as it's already set up for boost

  But how do you get rid of that extra 50Kg off its fat arse?
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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:51 PM

Only turbo ive driven is gbc stage 4 turbo, i was expecting it to be a real bitch to drive after reading about power delivery etc, It wasent dont get me wrong i wouldent give up my stage 3 SC for it because it revs and revs. But it wasent that bad

  must've driven a good one then. 
One of the best i suspect

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:53 PM

Only turbo ive driven is gbc stage 4 turbo, i was expecting it to be a real bitch to drive after reading about power delivery etc, It wasent dont get me wrong i wouldent give up my stage 3 SC for it because it revs and revs. But it wasent that bad

Wouldn't mind a drive of George's he has spent good money on getting it that good so would be good to give it a go ;-)

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:54 PM

the 2.2 has a flatspot between 2500 and 3500 rpm

the 2.2 owners seem to forget to mention this
 

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:58 PM

the 2.2 has a flatspot between 2500 and 3500 rpm

the 2.2 owners seem to forget to mention this
 
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Nothing which could not be removed with the dutch software, 2.2 na or 2.0sc or 2.2 SC

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:59 PM

the 2.2 has a flatspot between 2500 and 3500 rpm the 2.2 owners seem to forget to mention this  

Oh yes, the barely noticeable flat spot that is about a quarter of the flat spot on a standard turbo. ;)

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 04:01 PM

Doesn't look to bad in the twisty's to me ;) 300hp tubby

Edited by Bumblebee, 28 May 2014 - 04:01 PM.


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Posted 28 May 2014 - 04:04 PM

Doesn't look to bad in the twisty's to me ;) 300hp tubby

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 04:18 PM

its a swedish forum member with the Z20LEH engine. 


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Posted 28 May 2014 - 07:41 PM

The NA is a perfectly capable road car.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 08:07 PM

George has a ££££ standalone ECU to help with the power delivery though? 



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 10:17 PM

I have a turbo. I wish I had a supercharged 2.2 instead....

 

:yeahthat:

 

Missed my NA every day after I sold it.. the tubby went last week and I've barely thought about it since..

 

SC for me next time..



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Posted 29 May 2014 - 12:50 AM

Wow what a topic! Everyone knows a sc is the car to go for if you are serious about tracking. Read the forum and use the search you will find nothing good mentioned about a turbo on track. Lee you are welcome to drive the thing but I'm afraid I have no interest in that sc thing you put up with. Book on to a day I do. Or name a July trackday! Ps. Turbo owner here who has only seen similar powered cars disappear on corners but I don't dare say undriveable sc! Some cars bugger off but they are usually driven by the legend chris_uk or his mini me Mike lol. Believe what you like but don't take one dog sh*t sh** national as gospel! Worst trackday of the year as you never normally get so many novices in one place IMO!

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 05:35 AM

Good to see you out so much in the car on tack this year George (no jealous at all :() lol

 

As stated a really good driver makes a massive difference! As long as your having fun thats the important thing

 

I have never really been into the SC thing myself but do seem to hold their own on track. Driven one on the road and compared to standalone VXT or TFSI setup there is no contest imo, I really like low down torque and smooth turbo delivery

 

The 450bhp S5 I was in last week was an impessive unit mind ;)

 

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 06:55 AM

The problem I had with my 2.2 was that on the road I could keep my foot flat to the floor most of the time. Just not enough power for the grip available. On track a standard one becomes a mobile chicane. Yes the turbo has it's faults in standard form but handling can be improved easily with a few quid spent on springs and shocks. Power delivery can also be improved with a remap and exhaust.  Plenty of turbos out there with this work already done.



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Posted 29 May 2014 - 07:18 AM

also bear in mind the turbo map is now fully adjustable to any enthusiast with TVXR tuning suite at no cost.



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Posted 29 May 2014 - 07:20 AM

 on the road I could keep my foot flat to the floor most of the time.

 

Some might see that as a benefit.

If you drove a turbo foot to floor, you'd wrap it round a lamp post.

Maybe you could say an NA is a car to be driven at 10 tenths?






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