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#421 Doctor Ed

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 05:47 PM

Fuel system upgrade bits:

034Motorsport mini surge tank with internal Bosch 044
Corvette fuel filter with integrated 4bar fuel pressure reg (dead-head returnless system)
Metric sh*t tonne of speedflow 200 series adapting the various 3/8 and 5/16 GM quick release fittings, Bosch and surge tank threads, all into standard AN6. Running speedflow 200 nylon with black stainless braid (bend radius impressively small).

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 08:31 AM

off to the waterjet today...

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 07:59 PM

 
Speedster//VX ones are for instance SKF VKBA 3513 ones (5-bolt with speed sensor)
 
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Posted 10 August 2016 - 06:16 AM

Cool thumbsup

 

And not even 'made in China' :D

 

Oh.. BTW.. Don't bother trying to use the included bolts 'as is' to attach the bearing packs to the uprights, they are much too long for the Speedster/VX application to use un-modified. (Vectra/Astra front uprights are much deeper/thicker). Either you'll need to cut these down to lenght if you do want to use these or re-use the ones that come from the existing Tesla uprights as you dis-assemble those.

 

When fitting these bearing units to the (cleaned and de-rusted) uprights I like to use some thick conserving/anti-corrosion grease on the opening in the upright that the bearing unit locates into. Helps reduce the amount of water that wicks into this. Otherwise they do have a nasty habit of rusting very tightly into the fitting so it becomes 'big hammer' and frustration time to ever get them out again. BTW.. 90Nm for the 3 bolts that hold the bearing pack to the upright.

 

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Posted 10 August 2016 - 09:54 AM

such a pleasure working on this car and not having to reinvent the wheel every step of the way!

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Posted 10 August 2016 - 06:57 PM

it lives !!
Well, it turns on, the ignition works, and nothing caught on fire :)

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Part of that system check was testing the W2A cooler thermostat circuit, and override switch (thanks for the idea Allen). All works, and I'm stoked with my hack-job wiring. Punters tip: fabric loom tape cam make anyone look like a pro :)

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 11:42 AM

Here's today's 40 worth of bits (chromolly kevlar rod ends (M10 L&R) inserts and tube etc). my welding is getting a little more respectable too. Plan is to slip a 2mm wall 3K Carbon sleeve over the top. the steel bar assembly itself is plenty strong enough, but it's a little springy if you jump up and down in it. I figure a solid sleeve of carbon will stiffen it up a few fold, plus it'll look rather flash ;)

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Posted 13 August 2016 - 09:13 AM

After chewing on it overnight... i've decided to bump up the tube size a notch. It's just a little too springy for my taste, and considering I'm going to have a harness wrapped around it, I'd prefer it to be a little stiffer. So I'll use the tube thats there as a sleeve to get it up to size, chop the middle length out and slip fit the next size tube on. Quick maths says for a 100kg load at the center on the current beam, I've got a 33mm deflection @ 9500bar (sounds about right having stood on it) Simply stepping up a size tube (same 1.5mm wall thickness) drops deflection to 22mm @ 7300bar And just for kicks, I roughly looked at having the harness installed offset from the middle of the the beam (200mm offset from the center) and looked at a 20g crash. Assuming 1/3 of my 100kg body weight would be held by the shoulder harness, that's a 600kg load... Gives a 29mm deflection @ 26000bar (vs 43mm with the current tube size). So next size up it is :) Woven 3k carbon tube over the top (1.5mm wall) will halve that again if you believe the numbers, but I'd rather not rely on it

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#429 vocky

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Posted 13 August 2016 - 09:56 AM

what bhp are you aiming for with the A20NFT ?

 

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Posted 13 August 2016 - 10:59 AM

Less than that one :) Nah, 340 odd unopened

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Posted 13 August 2016 - 12:01 PM

While I applaud the 'DIY' effort, why not just buy an S2 K-series harness bar as you used that roll-over bar anyway?

 

https://www.elisepar...8/harness-bars/

 

Bolt in, done..

 

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Posted 13 August 2016 - 12:28 PM

no reason really. I could make up a reason to justify it, like mines less that 1/2 the price of the above, but Id be lying, as I never really considered price. I just like making stuff

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Posted 13 August 2016 - 01:50 PM

What does that picture have to do with A20NFT?

what bhp are you aiming for with the A20NFT ?  



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Posted 13 August 2016 - 01:54 PM

What does that picture have to do with A20NFT?  

what bhp are you aiming for with the A20NFT ?  

 

 

it is a picture of a piston I removed from an A20NFT engine, so shows how weak the standard pistons are when you go above 350bhp thumbsup  



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Posted 13 August 2016 - 02:01 PM

To be fair, it's a bit of an unusual piston failure. Busted ring land on a thrust face? Witness marks elsewhere? Detonation? Other Pistons? I wouldnt be generalizing to "how weak the pistons are" based on a single failure.

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Posted 13 August 2016 - 04:15 PM

Apparently it's a common problem, but only above 350 bhp, below that they are fine :)

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Posted 13 August 2016 - 04:45 PM

Any sources worth reading on that? The only issues I've heard/read about was something about hydrolocking and a recall coming out having broken ring lands and pistons. (And that's obviously not hp dependent). Otherwise I'd just imagine it's just a case of OEM cast piston meets sh*t-ton of boost? Common sense would need to play a role there before pushing your luck at 200hp/L

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Posted 13 August 2016 - 05:48 PM

To be fair, it's a bit of an unusual piston failure. Busted ring land on a thrust face? Witness marks elsewhere? Detonation? Other Pistons? I wouldnt be generalizing to "how weak the pistons are" based on a single failure.

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Posted 13 August 2016 - 06:53 PM

That certainly kills di engines, but isn't related to peak hp output

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Posted 13 August 2016 - 07:02 PM

That certainly kills di engines, but isn't related to peak hp output

Agreed, but you don't know if the engine failed at peak output. It's certainly looks like a common lspi failure

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