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[Wolfstone]

It's Lotus....why wouldn't you just go oem?

[D-DAWG83]

When you stick superpro bushes in you need to check the tube part for roundness. Where it's welded you will likely find its bulged in. You need to ream this off. If you don't it adds pressure to the bush which has no give consequently adding pressure to the bush sleeve boundary making it tight. This is why people have problems imo. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Iv got superpro bushes on mine, and the sleeves are all machined, no welding at all.

[D-DAWG83]

It's Lotus....why wouldn't you just go oem?

I think OEM is fine if you are running a pretty standard car. Iv got 100hp more than my car was designed for, so i think having better bushes is pretty sensible.

[Tibbles Stryker]

I personally think lotus were probably right with there choice of set up or wouldn't they have chosen better bushing, how do you know that the superpro are better or worse? I think we all look at aftermarket or uprated parts as improving our cars and many times we're not

[stu8v]

I personally think lotus were probably right with there choice of set up or wouldn't they have chosen better bushing, how do you know that the superpro are better or worse? I think we all look at aftermarket or uprated parts as improving our cars and many times we're not

I agree.

[FLD]

When you stick superpro bushes in you need to check the tube part for roundness. Where it's welded you will likely find its bulged in. You need to ream this off. If you don't it adds pressure to the bush which has no give consequently adding pressure to the bush sleeve boundary making it tight. This is why people have problems imo. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Iv got superpro bushes on mine, and the sleeves are all machined, no welding at all.

The tube on the wishbone is welded. Not the bush tube. Sorry if it wasn't clear.

[Nev]

So... does anyone have a rose jointed car I could have a passenger ride in please? Am willing to travel a fair distance.

 

Edited by Nev, 04 May 2016 - 04:20 PM.

[speedster norway]

So... does anyone have a rose jointed car I could have a passenger ride in please? Am will to travel a fair distance.

 

 

Norway is too far?.....

 

[Nev]

 

So... does anyone have a rose jointed car I could have a passenger ride in please? Am will to travel a fair distance.

 

 

Norway is too far?.....

 

 

 

...a little bit too far!

 

Can you give me a genuine idea of how they feel on bumpy roads with lots of holes and camber changes. Also, an idea of your current spring poundage on the front and rear and coilover type on the car would help give some background.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Nev.

Edited by Nev, 04 May 2016 - 04:30 PM.

[NOSBandit]

I have fitted the elise shop bearings on my wishbones, ride is a little harsh at times

[Nev]

I have fitted the elise shop bearings on my wishbones, ride is a little harsh at times

 

Their own brand rose jointed ones I presume?

 

Did you find they inserted into the wishbones without any issues due to the welding?

 

Would you mind giving a bit more info about the ride over pot holes and undulations please?  

Where about in the country are you based please?

Edited by Nev, 04 May 2016 - 05:34 PM.

[NOSBandit]

Yes, apparently they are exactly the same as the nitron ones. Fitting was very easy and they pressed in nice and smoothly. The drive is a bit harsh as you feel every bump in the road, couldn't tell you to much in comparison to the oem bushes as only really driven it with the bearings in it. I'm in North wales

[gaffer1986]

I hear that the old bolts can get stuck to the bushes so you may need to cut some of the bolts out if you're thinking of doing it yourself.

[Zoobeef]

You can get them rotating with a ratchet then hammer and punch them out. If they don't come out you use a bigger hammer. 

[speedster norway]

Hi
I could try to write something about "rose joint" mine also comes from Elise Shop but they are the same as Nitron.
But remember this is written in a language I normally do not use, so something may be lost in translation.

I made several modifications simultaneously.
ARB front and rear of http://www.cornering....com/index.html
Light flywheel
Removed balance shafts. (NA 2.2)
New engine mounts.
To begin with, I used the original Bilstein shock absorbers with original springs.
These were switched to Ohlin with relatively soft springs,In terms of comfort, it was not much difference between these two But in handling was a big improvement.
Do not think the comfort was so much worse with"rose Joint" compared with the original bushes.
Whatever comfort is not the reason why this car was bought to begin with?
I have no problem about recommending "rose Joint" if the vehicle is used on track occasionally,if only for road use is perhaps a bit too much?
And it is perhaps a little more maintained with these?

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[NOSBandit]

The bolts can seize into the bushes, I had one do it and had to cut it out.

[gaffer1986]

Sounds like a pain!

[Gedi]

An old quote from arno:  

IMHO the only 2 real choices are:   - OEM (alike) bushings -> Fit and forget, work well and last ages   - Spherical bearing (Nitron, Pilbeam, etc.) or Erlaton -> Need regular maintenance and replacement, but tighter control of suspension movement   Polyurethane basically combines the 'bad' points from both into one.. They need regular maintenance/cleaning to stop dirt grinding away on the subframe/mounts and inside the wishbone eyes, while still giving a lot of compliance/flex in the bushings.   Ran most types of bushings on my car in it's 12+ year lifespan by now and have settled on Nitron spherical bearings for mine, but otherwise I'd have gone back to the OEM (alike) rubber ones.   Bye, Arno,

I bought the full suspension refresh kit from seriously lotus as that was by far the best value for money.

[Nev]

Why exactly do people say that polyurethane will grind the inside of the wishbone eyes, where as OEM rubber ones will not? Surely they are almost exactly the same shape, just differing materials. i.e. if the dirt can penetrate poly bushes, why wont it penetrate the OEM ones?

 

Edited by Nev, 05 May 2016 - 07:02 AM.

[mbes2]

A few years back I did all the ones on Minno'sold silver VXT, its not a hard job, will take a good day with many tea breaks. 

 

Should be p*ss easy for you Nev