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#21 tibby

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 12:41 PM

Another Lunatic ! :-)

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 01:51 PM

Lee has always found a way.... ;)

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 02:08 PM

Times always move on If you go back 5 years 300 HP was a lot in a sc vx no doubt before that when sc started to happen 250 HP was a lot There will always be progression and always ways to make big power projects like this usable/work Ps lee when you telling the wife and can you set a video up when you do it as I'm sure it's going to have good entertainment value


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Posted 30 November 2016 - 06:21 PM

Are there any other 550+ HP supercharged VXes in Euroland or will this be a world first ?

 

 

No, 400 was the holy grail untill this 500 shananigans started earlier this year. UK wins this one.  


Edited by smiley, 30 November 2016 - 06:29 PM.


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Posted 30 November 2016 - 06:48 PM

didnt he get to 550?



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Posted 30 November 2016 - 06:50 PM

A quick Question on the 1320 charger there is a pipe coming out the side for the brake servo pipe ,these just push into the casing, on the 1900  i have holes for pipes but no pipes where can i get these push in pipes from and what is the technical name for them ?

A press for hose fitting? Alternatively, if you can tap the hole (fnar) I can make you a screw in fitting. It'll cost you mind but then, you did say I was spanking you hard!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 06:50 PM

Press fit even! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 07:14 PM

didnt he get to 550?

 

I only count round numbers :dry: Report back to me when you do 600.



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Posted 01 December 2016 - 07:53 AM

 

didnt he get to 550?

 

I only count round numbers :dry: Report back to me when you do 600.

 

 

Ha ha, now there's a challenge Lee !!

 

600 SC'ed HP might even be drivable I reckon (especially with a bag of cement in the battery compartment to help stop the wheelying). I can't wait to see how this gets on.  


Edited by Nev, 01 December 2016 - 07:54 AM.


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Posted 01 December 2016 - 08:14 AM


600 SC'ed HP might even be drivable I reckon

 

 

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Posted 01 December 2016 - 08:29 AM

 

Are there any other 550+ HP supercharged VXes in Euroland or will this be a world first ?

 

 

No, 400 was the holy grail untill this 500 shananigans started earlier this year. UK wins this one.  

 

 

Euroland seem to reduce the engine size, whereas we in the UK know the secret to good power from the z22se engine is to increase the cc :D

 

2350 sc = 550 bhp

2500 itb = 270 bhp

 

This 2400 sc will have to be capped due to the crank, so 600 will be max. I guess Lee will run it in the low 500 range, due to not needing all that the power :blink:  :lol:  



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Posted 01 December 2016 - 08:44 AM

Still think that the 1900 is simply too much blower for the engine size. Did anybody looked to the TVS blower and drive-loss maps?

On full (600?) chat it probably is OK, but driveability/efficiency at say 300 or less?? :unsure:

 

What will be the max rpm of this with the 2.4 crank (98mm throw)?

 

 



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Posted 01 December 2016 - 08:45 AM

 

 

Euroland seem to reduce the engine size, whereas we in the UK know the secret to good power from the z22se engine is to increase the cc :D

 

 

 

Euroland needs to save pennies, so trying to make the best of oem B207. Latest optimized timing on an 80mm pully does 364 bhp. Not to bad for a 2.0.  



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Posted 01 December 2016 - 09:34 AM

    Euroland seem to reduce the engine size, whereas we in the UK know the secret to good power from the z22se engine is to increase the cc :D    

  Euroland needs to save pennies, so trying to make the best of oem B207. Latest optimized timing on an 80mm pully does 364 bhp. Not to bad for a 2.0.  
W O W !!! Any more details?

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Posted 01 December 2016 - 09:54 AM

Exmantaa's mate speedster4fun's car.

He does not post much.

 

They are both working on their timing atm (though exmantaa uses a 2.0 lsj, and speedster4fun uses the B207)

 

Stock B207 internals. Ported head, stronger valve springs and sharper cams. The 364 was at around 7600.

 

Also look at obdtuner update 2.7.10 (the reason why our logging cuts at around 7k, thus not showing/logging full potential over 7k.) Exmantaa and his mate use HP tuners who do not have that issue.  


Edited by smiley, 01 December 2016 - 09:55 AM.


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Posted 01 December 2016 - 12:00 PM

    Euroland seem to reduce the engine size, whereas we in the UK know the secret to good power from the z22se engine is to increase the cc :D    

  Euroland needs to save pennies, so trying to make the best of oem B207. Latest optimized timing on an 80mm pully does 364 bhp. Not to bad for a 2.0.  
Excellent results from them 2.0 will be Intresting what happens when the weather warms up again , but I believe the water may be cracked open

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Posted 01 December 2016 - 12:25 PM

Wonder what will happen to the noise levels on these builds

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Posted 01 December 2016 - 12:27 PM

Worst case Lee can go touring in the mountains with Nev.


Edited by smiley, 01 December 2016 - 12:28 PM.


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Posted 01 December 2016 - 03:53 PM

Exmantaa's mate speedster4fun's car.

He does not post much.

 

They are both working on their timing atm (though exmantaa uses a 2.0 lsj, and speedster4fun uses the B207)

 

Stock B207 internals. Ported head, stronger valve springs and sharper cams. The 364 was at around 7600.

 

Also look at obdtuner update 2.7.10 (the reason why our logging cuts at around 7k, thus not showing/logging full potential over 7k.) Exmantaa and his mate use HP tuners who do not have that issue.  

 

What's in 2.7.10 changed for the power logging?

 

The 360HP (364 road - 354Hp on a MAHA dyno, whatever...) on our 2.0's is made at the 7800rpm set limiter with some ignition tweaking, but we're thinking about upping that to 8K as it revs so smoothly now.

(And noise wise Rob's is not too bad on his 2.5 + kat system!)

 

But these numbers are optimised on cold-ish weather and with relative short accelerations (3rd gear) runs. (no knock) All mainly done to give us a solid base for where we want to be with the water injection installed.  



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Posted 01 December 2016 - 04:21 PM

 I'm glad to say you now have the time for your own car, sorry mine got all the good weather.

 

Good luck with it mate.

 

Martin S

 






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