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[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

I use the AEM controller at it's lowest settings, it doesn't start injecting until the boost goes over 11psi and wouldn't be at a 100% until the boost would reach 36psi. As I only run my boost at 20psi at maximum at the moment, the water meth duty cycle never goes over 36% Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

are turbo charged and using boost control ? for water meth 

[NOSBandit]

Ecu controls the boost and the AEM controller works independently by pressure Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Ecu controls the boost and the AEM controller works independently by pressure Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

 

ah im using IDC to control the aquamist controller and the ecu to control the signal to the controller 

[NOSBandit]

I did think about using my ecu to control the water injection as I still have a spare pwm output available, but the AEM system is safer as it checks for faults and warns if any occur. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

I did think about using my ecu to control the water injection as I still have a spare pwm output available, but the AEM system is safer as it checks for faults and warns if any occur. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

 

by using the ecu you can manipulate the signal dependant on IAT, RPM, boost pressure etc etc 

 

which gives you a lot of control 

[NOSBandit]

I agree, it gives plenty of different ways to control it using the ecu. But the ecu wouldn't pick up a pump problem or a blocked jet which the AEM one does Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

I agree, it gives plenty of different ways to control it using the ecu. But the ecu wouldn't pick up a pump problem or a blocked jet which the AEM one does Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

thats where the aquamist fail safe comes in 

 

if it detects a drop or increase  in water pressure 

or the float switch in the tank 

or even flow rate of water 

 

it sends a signal to my ecu which then stitches away from (map 2) water injection map to Map 1 (NON water injection map ) 

 

map 1 also has a reduced ignition setting and is generally less aggressive 

 

auto dual maps with my ecu

Edited by CHILL Gone DUTCH, 26 February 2017 - 05:47 PM.

[NOSBandit]

Sounds like the fail safe systems are very similar, I only use one map on my ecu as I've never bothered setting the other one up. If my fail safe kicks in I only lose 75 horses, so still fun to drive. The reason I went for the AEM setup is because the person who tunes my car recommended it as it's a good and reliable system. What ecu are you using? Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

[scw02102]

I think mines set to 70% so doesnt really spray when driving normal and inlet temps dont rise on mine until I give it the beans

 

Then the Meth kicks in and holds this back

 

Worth noting if anyone decides to run meth you need will need a map changes as it will run rich and not make power, if anything mine was losing power as it was running too rich. Part of the remap is running the car lean then using the meth to add performance as its a fuel (as such)

 

Im guessing if you run water only a remap is not required but for meth people get it mapped ASAP

 

 

[NOSBandit]

Even with just water you should get it remapped, during combustion the water will break down adding oxygen to the burn and making it a slightly leaner mixture Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

I'm using the new obdtuner pro You will be surprised how much difference there is in a map with water and without even when using the same targets Even though to achieve optimum targets should be very different I told this to acidpopstar last year but he now on a third different engine he might listen

[NOSBandit]

I'm using the new obdtuner pro You will be surprised how much difference there is in a map with water and without even when using the same targets Even though to achieve optimum targets should be very different I told this to acidpopstar last year but he now on a third different engine he might listen

I'm using the adaptronic ecu, it is tuned optimally for no water under 11psi and the rest of the map above that it is tuned for water/meth. If the fail safe kicks in I run at wastegate pressure of 9psi, so there is no danger to the engine. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

You should setup the road: and race map as you can get great mph on road map and good performance on track

[Acidpopstar]

I'm using the new obdtuner pro You will be surprised how much difference there is in a map with water and without even when using the same targets Even though to achieve optimum targets should be very different I told this to acidpopstar last year but he now on a third different engine he might listen

Chris yet again I have to tell you my engine issues have fcuk all to do with WI. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[NOSBandit]

You should setup the road: and race map as you can get great mph on road map and good performance on track

To be honest I'm quite happy just running the race map, I get over 30mpg on normal driving as the boost is multiplied by tps. Also I can run different boost levels by flicking a switch on the dash for different weather conditions. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

I think mines set to 70% so doesnt really spray when driving normal and inlet temps dont rise on mine until I give it the beans

 

Then the Meth kicks in and holds this back

 

Worth noting if anyone decides to run meth you need will need a map changes as it will run rich and not make power, if anything mine was losing power as it was running too rich. Part of the remap is running the car lean then using the meth to add performance as its a fuel (as such)

 

Im guessing if you run water only a remap is not required but for meth people get it mapped ASAP

 

 

 

What ECU do you use ??

 

Even with just water you should get it remapped, during combustion the water will break down adding oxygen to the burn and making it a slightly leaner mixture Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

 

Yep agree with that to 

[NOSBandit]

I think mines set to 70% so doesnt really spray when driving normal and inlet temps dont rise on mine until I give it the beans   Then the Meth kicks in and holds this back   Worth noting if anyone decides to run meth you need will need a map changes as it will run rich and not make power, if anything mine was losing power as it was running too rich. Part of the remap is running the car lean then using the meth to add performance as its a fuel (as such)   Im guessing if you run water only a remap is not required but for meth people get it mapped ASAP    

  What ECU do you use ??  

Even with just water you should get it remapped, during combustion the water will break down adding oxygen to the burn and making it a slightly leaner mixture Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

  Yep agree with that to 

I'm using a adaptronic e420c, it's an old ecu now but still works perfectly. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

[scw02102]

 

I think mines set to 70% so doesnt really spray when driving normal and inlet temps dont rise on mine until I give it the beans

 

Then the Meth kicks in and holds this back

 

Worth noting if anyone decides to run meth you need will need a map changes as it will run rich and not make power, if anything mine was losing power as it was running too rich. Part of the remap is running the car lean then using the meth to add performance as its a fuel (as such)

 

Im guessing if you run water only a remap is not required but for meth people get it mapped ASAP

 

 

 

What ECU do you use ??

 

Even with just water you should get it remapped, during combustion the water will break down adding oxygen to the burn and making it a slightly leaner mixture Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

 

Yep agree with that to 

 

Standard turbo one 

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

 

 

I think mines set to 70% so doesnt really spray when driving normal and inlet temps dont rise on mine until I give it the beans

 

Then the Meth kicks in and holds this back

 

Worth noting if anyone decides to run meth you need will need a map changes as it will run rich and not make power, if anything mine was losing power as it was running too rich. Part of the remap is running the car lean then using the meth to add performance as its a fuel (as such)

 

Im guessing if you run water only a remap is not required but for meth people get it mapped ASAP

 

 

 

What ECU do you use ??

 

Even with just water you should get it remapped, during combustion the water will break down adding oxygen to the burn and making it a slightly leaner mixture Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

 

Yep agree with that to 

 

Standard turbo one 

 

 

Who does your mapping ?

got any RR information 

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