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#21 Rosssco

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Posted 30 March 2018 - 07:46 AM

What it the thinking on higher CR say 10.5:1 with a larger pulley 3.5? I might SC my engine at some point but it has a 0.5mm skimmed head and larger valves. I would like to go back to std cams and use a smaller ear pod radiator. Sorry to hijack the thread 😬

  Don't see why that wouldn't work well. I suppose the calibration and what exhaust will have a lot to do with it. As above, I ran a 3.1" pulley with a 10.4:1 CR. I then switched up to a 3.35" (standard size) until I could get the fuelling improved. This was on a larger capacity engine though.



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Posted 30 March 2018 - 07:50 AM

Already on Dutch. Would also be running wideband for more accurate fuelling.

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Posted 30 March 2018 - 09:31 AM

You will be right at the maximum idc with that spec blue vxr injector ( what size pulley you fitting )

 

If you go for 3.0 or below I think you will need 630 cc injectors

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The pulley delivered on the SC is 77.9mm (3.07"). I think I will try to find a 3.2". [font="Calibri;font-size:11pt;"]  I have following choices as I am running OBD: [/font]

Injector470cc/min(Bosch0280156280)

Injector550cc/min(Siemens) 

 

Is 470 ok or shall I look for the Siemens 550 if running with pulley between 3.07 and up to eg. 3.3?



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Posted 30 March 2018 - 09:53 AM

With that sort of pulley size, you'll be getting at most 300bhp (probably a good bit less if running a 3.2" pulley) so the 470 injectors are perfectly fine. 630cc are a bit over-sized for this level but have been used before and are ok. No idea on the 550cc injectors.

 

I will be running Bosch 0280156280 injectors (VXR blue injectors as they are more commonly known on here) with hopefully close to ~290bhp on a 3.0" pulley. They are plenty good assuming my fuel pump is suitably rated, although as noted, they are not recommended outputs in the mid-300bhp range.



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Posted 30 March 2018 - 10:10 AM

Make sure to use a wideband (even temporarily if needed) to run the wot sessions in obdtuner.

From the top of my head i went from around 95% to 85% injectory cycle near the peak.

Basemap is set very rich in the top part.



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Posted 30 March 2018 - 03:57 PM

OK. I will test with current 3.07" pulley, 10.0:1 CR and Bosch Blue and see how it turns out.

 

The engine is in its way for balancing: But first I have to buy new bearings The standard bearings did not fit the new crank. 

 

The car must be running when my daughter graduate early June. I may wait until after to be on the safe side. 

 

I will check for wideband as well. But I am not there yet :)

 



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Posted 01 April 2018 - 10:09 AM

Use a tubular exhaust manifold instead of the Dbilas one for extra power.

Of port your Dbilas one....

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Posted 02 April 2018 - 03:34 PM

Think I start with porting my Dbilas first. When the car is running I can check for improvements like new exhaust system.



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Posted 02 April 2018 - 06:41 PM

Jesus, are my eyes deceiving me or is that Dbilas manifold out by 1/4 inch all over the place???


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Posted 09 April 2018 - 07:19 PM

Hi, I was trying to add a picture of my adjustable cam gears. But I am not able to add picture even with the size of  only 29KB. Seams as I have a limit of 3KB.........  :glare:

 


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Posted 09 April 2018 - 09:47 PM

Go to your "my gallery" on this site, upload pic there and post the link in your posting here.

(Or use any other, non Photobucket, picture host site...)


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 05:54 PM

Tried "My gallery" with same issue. Not allowed to upload pictures larger than 3kb.

 

However. The adjustable gears was  bought together with stage 2 Compcams from ALLEcotec. Attached is a link to a picture of the gears.

 

https://www.flickr.c...6/shares/x68216



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Posted 11 April 2018 - 04:38 AM

Any opinion if this adj cam gears are OK? Or is it safer to go for standard?



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Posted 11 April 2018 - 03:34 PM

Tried "My gallery" with same issue. Not allowed to upload pictures larger than 3kb.
 
However. The adjustable gears was  bought together with stage 2 Compcams from ALLEcotec. Attached is a link to a picture of the gears.
 
https://www.flickr.c...6/shares/x68216


Wow, allecotec, that's a long time ago :-) (8 jears or so?)
Ordered my Comp cams there also (when nobody even knew about these cams)
Still use the free allecotec fastener for weigth lifting :-)



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Posted 11 April 2018 - 03:42 PM

Any opinion if this adj cam gears are OK? Or is it safer to go for standard?

I do'nt know about the gears BUT i do know the timing from the Comp cams from allecotec are not 100% ok. You need to use adjustable cam gears for these cams for full benefits... https://www.speedste...hilit=comp cams (yeap, 8 years ago....)

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Posted 11 April 2018 - 08:43 PM

 

Any opinion if this adj cam gears are OK? Or is it safer to go for standard?

I do'nt know about the gears BUT i do know the timing from the Comp cams from allecotec are not 100% ok. You need to use adjustable cam gears for these cams for full benefits... https://www.speedste...hilit=comp cams (yeap, 8 years ago....)

 

 My Dutch understanding is not the best. But Google translate makes magic  :happy:  

I am using OBD-tuner. I have Piper cams in my current engine and the HC level att idling is far out of range for Swedish MOT approval. Solution for me was to use OBD-tuner and increasw idle to 1200rpm. But adjustabel gears may solve this issue?.

I will start with this adj gears and se how it works. 



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Posted 11 April 2018 - 08:47 PM

 

Tried "My gallery" with same issue. Not allowed to upload pictures larger than 3kb.   However. The adjustable gears was  bought together with stage 2 Compcams from ALLEcotec. Attached is a link to a picture of the gears.   https://www.flickr.c...6/shares/x68216

Wow, allecotec, that's a long time ago :-) (8 jears or so?) Ordered my Comp cams there also (when nobody even knew about these cams) Still use the free allecotec fastener for weigth lifting :-)

 

Yes. The cams are still brand new in boxes. Bouht from a forum meber that got tired of having them on the shelf collecting dust.



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Posted 11 April 2018 - 09:36 PM

Allecotec is a long time ago yeah. I assume this is the Comp 113250 blower set for the L61/Z22SE engine with 1 shorter exhaust cam? (Can you post the grind number etched in the cams?)

Not sure on the MOT levels of these in a 2.0 engine, as they will behave wilder than in a 2.2. You can always use Z22SE cams or the original GM LSJ cams. I got about 280 HP "untuned" with the LSJ's on a further stock 2.0 engine and 3.05 pulley. :happy:

 

 

Not sure on the gears, as you don't want to get them loose...  :huh: 



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Posted 11 April 2018 - 10:16 PM

Yes. If I rememer correct it is the113250 set. Exhaust cam is shorter. Wii attache link to picture when I am on my computer. I see no issue with the MOT. If there is a problem=> I increase Idle before the MOT-inspection. No problem so far😉 I will anyway need to hide or disconnect the SC during the MOT in Sweden. Any advantage with the adj gears? I wll otherwise sourse fixed.

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 05:07 AM

Hi. The Compcams are 113301 and 113302

 

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