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#1 xiodene

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 07:33 PM

Need some help please guys.

 

2.2 NA has been sat on my drive for about 3 months. Batter was totally dead but managed to get it all charged back up.

It started up first time, but would not rev at all. Turned it off and on again and seemed fine. I drove it the 3 miles to my new house and parked outside the garage, as it was too dark to put it away.

 

So next morning I go out and try to start it. But now it wont start! 

The starter is spinning but its not even trying to fire. I also cannot hear the fuel pump priming. It also has two clicks, coming from the front somewhere which coincide with the engine management light flashing...

Any ideas guys?



#2 vocky

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 07:43 PM

flashing EML is usually immobiliser fault



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Posted 28 January 2019 - 07:49 PM

it flashes two or three times the I turn the key, then just stays on constantly.

Does that still sound like the immobiliser? The clicks seem to come from near the front drivers side.

 



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Posted 28 January 2019 - 08:58 PM

I am attaching a video I just made of the problem, im it you can hear the funny clicking, which I just notices also happens when I take my finger off the starter button as well..

 

https://youtu.be/idgGjcffTuw



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Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:08 PM

thats not a flashing eml, so some good news

 

Sounds like it has compression, but not firing. So either fuel or spark, possibly one of the relays in the boot (brown or grey), also check the fuses in the boot too



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Posted 29 January 2019 - 08:19 AM

Worth checking the fuel cut off switch too - I had the same issue on mine a few years ago and it was that...


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Posted 29 January 2019 - 09:13 AM

It could be an Immobiliser issue, I had this problem a few years ago after a flat battery on my old N/A, I had fuel pressure and spark but it wouldn't start. Try removing fuse 8 for an hour or two or disconnecting the battery for an hour or two this resets the ECU.



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Posted 29 January 2019 - 06:02 PM

Thanks guys, will post back once I have tried these suggestions :)



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Posted 27 March 2019 - 08:04 PM

Bit of an update. I finally got round to checking some of the suggestions.

I are the grey and brown relays in the boot interchangeable? I swapped the grey one for a known working one but it didn't help.
I noticed one of the 20amp fuses next the relays had blown. I replaced this but had still won't start. Could this have blown because the brown relay was broken?

Also tried the fuel pump reset switch. Again no change.

So what can I try next?

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Posted 29 March 2019 - 12:17 AM

I think the 20 amp fuse is for the cigarette lighter

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Posted 29 March 2019 - 02:34 AM

i just tried listening and i cant hear the fuel pump priming?

 

When you turn ignition on can you hear the pump prime and then stop?



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Posted 29 March 2019 - 10:02 AM

Fuel pump not priming?

 

Read this:

 

http://www.vx220.org...nt-start/page-3



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Posted 29 March 2019 - 11:09 AM

Batman, nope the fuel pump is not priming. I'm also pretty sure I remember not hearing it prime when I started it to drive it to the new house. It was only a short 2 mile drive, then the next morning it wouldn't start.

Horace, I will give that a read, thanks

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Posted 29 March 2019 - 10:57 PM

immobiliser would be my bet.

 

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Posted 30 March 2019 - 11:14 AM

the grey relay is for the fuel pump

 

the brown relay is for the injectors and lambda sensors, plus it also provides power to the fuel cut off switch and thus the fuel pump

 

It's possible that the blown fuse was caused by a faulty fuel pump or faulty relay.

 

The brown relay is not interchangable with a grey relay

 

The grey relay has a single 'normally open' contact, whereas the brown relay has two 'normally open' linked contacts

 

Easiest way to check for a fuel pump issue is to use the fuel pressure relief valve on the fuel rail, there should be fuel pressure just after the ignition is switched ON (and ignition switched back OFF before testing)






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