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#61 Thorney

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 08:05 PM

The Oz Super T will be in 4 bolt and 5 bolt. thumbsup I'll try an get the part number for you for the hubs but its just an S2 hub. Profit? Nope I paid £390 for the hubs and make £10 (costs £8 to ship). If you go via a Lotus dealer they're £125 each :o

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 08:11 PM

Hi thorney... one question: do we talk about only hubs(bearing and the part the wheels is bolted to) or also hub carriers, the whole part wich is connected with the uprights etc.?? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Ok sorry for my offensive post:unsure: .... but somehow i had to get a reaction, as it seemed that everyone would simply overread my question :lol: :poke:

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 08:20 PM

Hubs only, they bolt stright onto the carriers.

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 08:34 PM

Fairly sure its the hub and carrier as a complete unit JT. They bolt straight onto the upright thumbsup Although some of the descriptions in TIS can be ambiguous.

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 08:37 PM

no, you're right, its the carrier as well. The comment on the upright confused me as that remains. tired.

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 08:46 PM

Ok thanks !! Will check if i can get them cheaper if not... then you´ll get a mail Thorney thumbsup

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 09:39 PM

Could we get some pictures of the Elise hubs without the wheel and disc ??

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 09:43 PM

By the way, you can see installation drawings of hub assies on this subject

http://www.vx220.org...9&t=19621&st=40

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Posted 17 March 2005 - 09:48 PM

I wonder how the magnesium part is connected to the CF part.

I don't know, but if you were ultra-cautious you would put a band round and rivet it. If you had it right you would glue the thing. They are just so *cooool*. They really have my juices going...

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 09:03 AM

Could we get some pictures of the Elise hubs without the wheel and disc ??

I took a couple of photos of one mounted on the front over the weekend when working on the brakes.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 09:05 AM

and a view from above the hub

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 09:31 AM

I've just spent the weekend with my new Elise hubs and Speedlines. I would like to add my recommendation to throw your standard wheels into the nearest body of water and buy some proper ones in the right size. Massive improvement to the steering quality. It now turns in when you tell it to. Now to save up for some Nitrons.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 10:04 AM

I've been following this wheel/hub discussion and being a mechanical novice I'm not clear on what options are available with standard hubs and lotus hubs - can someone summarise? The pictures of the OZ wheels Thorney has been pursuing look great and am I correct in thinking that these are available for both standard and Lotus hubs - if so what size fronts are the standard OZ wheels ? Also - I was sitting in traffic on Saturday alongside an S2 Elise that had OZ wheels that looked very much like the ones Thorney is chasing...they looked thumbsup This confused me a little :( (not hard) .. because I'd presumed you could not get OZ wheels to fit the standard Lotus hubs (maybe they weren't standard?) - else why go to the trouble of trying to get special OZ wheels made to suit the VX rather than just getting the Lotus hubs and the 'off the shelf' OZ wheels?... only reason I can see was that it saves going to Lotus hubs?..but considering how much a PITA it has been for Thorney to organise - then it seems a lot of trouble to go to, when the Lotus hubs would solve the problem..... as I said above mechanical novice so I may have misunderstood completely :beat:

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 10:21 AM

Yes, the Oz wheels have been a pita but needed for people who don't want to switch hubs (also means disks need changing too so can get expensive). The Lotus Oz's won't fit our cars (out wing clearence is zero, I wore away my our arch in 3 miles on the road) The hub switch is worth it IMO on its own as you save another kg with the swap per corner but it is a track thing rather than the road, although as these guys have now seen the change is dramatic, as dramatic as any of the mods I've done IMO. The VXR wheels are almost 4kg per corner heavier :o

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 10:46 AM

John - just so I am 100 % clear. Are you saying even with the hub conversion the Lotus Oz wheels will not fit our cars? .. thought I'd seen some posts fron VX owners with Oz wheels?... if not it starts to make sense why you've continued to pursue the VX OZ wheels. Also are the OZ wheels you are pursuing in 16 inch fronts regrdless of which hub or only in 16 inch for the lotus hub version? I've read the comments of people who conversted to Lotus hubs and 16 inch fronts and they are very favourable - but not sure I like the look of the Speedlines or the VXR wheels much - are there many other choices I'd have if I went down this route - track issues aren't too much of a problem for me but regular road use/handling is - the VX is my main car ...and the look of the wheel ! poof Cheers thumbsup

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 11:55 AM

Lotus wheels will not fit our cars regardless of hub conversion or not. The fronts are OK but the rears completely foul the body. The Speedlines and Oz's will be available in 4 bolt and 5 bolt versions.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 12:18 PM

S2 Exige wheels will fit, but Elise wheels (including the OZ Super Ts) won't. The rear offset is the problem (around ET18 IIRC) resulting, as John says, in the wheel sticking out too far from the hub.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 12:20 PM

Lotus wheels will not fit our cars regardless of hub conversion or not. The fronts are OK but the rears completely foul the body.

The Speedlines and Oz's will be available in 4 bolt and 5 bolt versions.

Now I'm confused. I thought the Speedlines that fit the VX only come in a four bolt version and so we need the lotus hubs. The Oz wheels you're trying to get built will be five bolt and so will fit onto existing hubs. It sounds like you're trying to get four bolt versions of these as well, which will bolt onto lotus hubs.

So where does the five bolt Speedline fit in? :unsure:

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 12:23 PM

Sorry, yes. The Speedlines are only available in 4 bolt Elise patterns.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 12:36 PM

Thanks for the help John - but still not clear if the OZ wheels will be 16 inch or 17 inch fronts.. :blink: ..or am I just being thick and it is a case of 4 bolt always = 16 inch and 5 bolt = 17 inch? Also any news on progress - do you have a firm date/price etc yet?




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