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[G-Bob]

Whats next ?

Already got another piggie, a little dude of a bunny and a horse. Don't need any more.

[ghand]

Whats next ?

Already got another piggie, a little dude of a bunny and a horse. Don't need any more.

No that will do it

If my retirement comes of in the next few weeks its another dog for me, if not maybe a new lizard

to go with the old lizard ,who is called - - - go on have a guess as its what he does with his head

when angry



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Edited by ghand, 12 February 2013 - 11:19 PM.

[haggi961]

Just wondering if anyone on here owns a Doberman or knows of anyone who does. Im looking to get one when i move to my new place but was wanting a bit of advice and any good breeders that you could point me in the direction of.

[jules_s]

Just wondering if anyone on here owns a Doberman or knows of anyone who does. Im looking to get one when i move to my new place but was wanting a bit of advice and any good breeders that you could point me in the direction of.

It's obviously very cliche'd, so forgive me

I've know about a dozen Doberman owners over the last 15 years or so. Every one has had issues with their dogs.

Biting/aggression, certainly instant agression to people they dont know (first hand here)

I've no idea why it is/was...as quite, if not all of the people in question went to reputable breeders.

In one case, a mate of mine (call that mate I saw daily) bought a Tan one with a pedigree. From 12 weeks to 6 months I saw the dog (dog not bitch) almost daily. Two weeks not seeing it after it was six months old it went for me and bit me.

Another Doberman was a Pub dog which lived in a pub I used to drink in; I used to drink in it with my welsh springer. Three + years of them playing together and the next time the Doberman ripped her throat out.

In short (posted to much here perhaps) I would suggest you need to:

A/. Be very wary of the pedigree....more so than other breeds, and where the sire/dam has come from....environment not just bloodline

and

B/. Given A/. the sort of environment you are going to be keeping the dog in

Don't get me wrong...I love dogs (especially working dogs) but sometimes working breeds/dogs just don't make good pets

[Mangham54]

I can only agree with Jules, if you want a tough working dog, id go for a Rottie or German Shepherd/Alsatian. Temperaments are more consistent.

[ghand]

My Mate had his put down after it bit his dads face, he had been with the dog for years and it just suddenly went for him one day in the lounge. Suppose most are ok . Get a Lab,or any gun dog,its less likely to eat someone As to above, I had to have an Alsatian put down after in very nearly bite a child playing with mine in the garden, only for me being an inch away it would have killed him. Labs all the time after that for me

[Mangham54]

Bernese Mountain Dog is now on my radar.

[MWS]

Bernese Mountain Dog is now on my radar.

Is that in response to my post further up?

[LY_Scott]

GF has a staffordshire bull terrier. I've heard all the arguments about it's the owner and training and they get a hard time because of the people who are usually seen with them etc, He's fine most of the time. Likes to stay close, will sleep on your knee for hours if you let him but...if you wind him up or he gets over excited there's a change, a determination that can only come from breeding, the size he is I'm not arsed because I could throw him across the room if I had to but then I'm a 6ft grown man. I was brought up with labs (like mowgli Scott? no, don't be a fanny) and the temprement no matter who owned or trained them was always the same docile waggy way. Dog owners get a bit like mothers of convicted criminals with their pets sometimes. Some breeds are what they are and they have bad reputations for a reason. I love the little staffie to bits but would I leave him alone with a small kid? No, it only takes a second for it all to go very wrong. They were bred as a fighting dogs ffs. Rotties and dobermans scare the living bejesus out of me. I'm sure 95% of the time they are fine. But the size of them, if they turned on you or someone you cared about it only takes seconds to do damage and you can't just kick a dog that size away. I know of a lady with a nice face rip from a rottie who'd lived with her for years. 2p

[Goosenka]

GF has a staffordshire bull terrier. I've heard all the arguments about it's the owner and training and they get a hard time because of the people who are usually seen with them etc, He's fine most of the time. Likes to stay close, will sleep on your knee for hours if you let him but...if you wind him up or he gets over excited there's a change, a determination that can only come from breeding, the size he is I'm not arsed because I could throw him across the room if I had to but then I'm a 6ft grown man.

I was brought up with labs (like mowgli Scott? no, don't be a fanny) and the temprement no matter who owned or trained them was always the same docile waggy way.

Dog owners get a bit like mothers of convicted criminals with their pets sometimes. Some breeds are what they are and they have bad reputations for a reason. I love the little staffie to bits but would I leave him alone with a small kid? No, it only takes a second for it all to go very wrong. They were bred as a fighting dogs ffs.

Rotties and dobermans scare the living bejesus out of me. I'm sure 95% of the time they are fine. But the size of them, if they turned on you or someone you cared about it only takes seconds to do damage and you can't just kick a dog that size away. I know of a lady with a nice face rip from a rottie who'd lived with her for years.

2p

I walk every morning with x2 Rottweilers (male and female), a greyhound (female) and a choco Lab (female). My dog loves playing with them. Great temprements all of them. As soon as the shitty Staffs appear on the scene there is no doubt in my mind the mood of the pack changes. They play but they play in a very dominant way. Personally I fcuking hate them. Ugly things and I never ever trust them. They play aggressively and almost heard the other dogs as they run. My girl hates them to and rarely joins in which is odd for her but she just seems to know.

[LY_Scott]

I walk every morning with x2 Rottweilers (male and female), a greyhound (female) and a choco Lab (female). My dog loves playing with them. Great temprements all of them. As soon as the shitty Staffs appear on the scene there is no doubt in my mind the mood of the pack changes. They play but they play in a very dominant way. Personally I fcuking hate them. Ugly things and I never ever trust them. They play aggressively and almost heard the other dogs as they run. My girl hates them to and rarely joins in which is odd for her but she just seems to know.

Calling them ugly is a bit strong I love the little man but yep definately dominant in play. Tug of war is fun but he gets a look in his eye if he's not winning that I've not seen in other dogs. Have to stop if he gets over excited. Its a sin of years gone by breeding. He is what he is. To me he's a lovable lump but comes with warning labels.

He stays on the lead if out and it gets on my breasts when other owners let their dogs run at him. He's shorter than most staffies and he jas the sense to play with bigger dogs even though he usually gets barked at for getting on their nerves. Small yappy dogs though take their lives in their hands if they run at him. Really gets on my nerves when I'm using the sense to keep him close when other owners don't give a crap but it'll be my fault if it all goes pear shaped.

[LY_Scott]

nice photo with context

[ghand]

Its not rocket science some dogs where bred to be gentle and pick up birds without damaging them and some bred to rip things to bits and kill stuff plus a range in the middle.thats it . If you can control the killer dogs 100 percent of the time for ever then all will be good.and they can make a great pet .if not it can all go to sh*t in the blink of an eye as i have experianced

[Goosenka]

Fair enough that is harsh. Hell, my dog doesn't appeal to everyone for sure.

[MWS]

nice photo with context

Don't!! You'll make Bob cry!!

[Mangham54]

Bernese Mountain Dog is now on my radar.

Is that in response to my post further up? :)/>

You highlighted the name of the breed. I have searched and searched trying to find out what it was in the past and got nowhere.

[MWS]

They are wonderful dogs. Great temperament and very intelligent. We'll be getting one (or maybe two!) when we finally can buy a house!

[Mangham54]

They are wonderful dogs. Great temperament and very intelligent.

We'll be getting one (or maybe two!) when we finally can buy a house!

I'd have one tomorrow, but realistically I need Mel to sort out a permanent job, so I can know whether we can provide a suitable home to a dog. Unfortunately I work 26miles from home (1-1.5hr commute each way) and am out the house from 6:30am until 6:30pm each day, so would require her having a role where she could pop home at lunch to let it out (as a pup) whilst it settles in.

I have a secure, mini-park, for a garden, with a collection of sheds that could become a warm den (if it wanted to be outdoors).

[MWS]

Berners are historically outdoor dogs but are just as at home indoors. They don't particularly like being left for a long time on their own which can be a problem. I hope you are able to sort out your work pattern and get one because they are fantastic dogs. I am heading to Germany in March to see the missus' family so get to spend a week with 4 of them

[Mangham54]

Berners are historically outdoor dogs but are just as at home indoors. They don't particularly like being left for a long time on their own which can be a problem.

I hope you are able to sort out your work pattern and get one because they are fantastic dogs. I am heading to Germany in March to see the missus' family so get to spend a week with 4 of them :D/>

Exactly... hence the failure to do.

I had been told no to a German Shepherd, we had agreed a Border Collie, when the time comes.