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#1 P11 COV

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 03:28 PM

Was pulling out of Crownhill garage MK...having just gone to get a cambelt replacement quote. As I pulled out there was a car fairly near behind me so I floored the throttle whislst going left. The car got very sideways and there was a horrible rubbing noise and tyre smoke. I managed to get off the side of the road but the rear drivers side wheel appears to have moved foward and up and is snagging the front upper wheel arch. The body work has split slightly. Now awaiting a breaking truck to take it back to the garage (50 yrds away!!) How hes gonna move it with out further body work damage i dont know. Damn!! Oh it has been making a squeaking sound for a while from that corner when going over speed bumps . any ideas chaps??? How hes gonna move it with out further body work damage i dont know.

Edited by P11 COV, 17 October 2007 - 03:30 PM.


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Posted 17 October 2007 - 03:40 PM

Dampers top mounts snapped? How old is the car?

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 03:44 PM

Hub carrier bolt snapped? The squeaking you describe is normally the toe-link joints drying out. Mine does it all the time. Out of interest how much was the cambelt quote?

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 04:31 PM

:o That doesn't sound good mate :( I'd guess at hub carrier bolts too :mellow:

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 05:38 PM

:o That doesn't sound good mate :(

I'd guess at hub carrier bolts too :mellow:


same here, i had mine replaced at TMS just to be safe.

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 05:56 PM

Yep...hub carrier bolts...and I have some new high strength bolts in my garage!!!!

I was V. impressed with the breakdown guy though who managed to get the car on and off the low loader without allowing the rear wheel to turn and therefore stopping any further damage to the wheel arch. He was very slow, thorough and inventive in his approach to the situation but kept and saying 'Why me!'

Gouldy...Cam belt change:

£216 labour, £83.05 Parts (includes tension and guide rollers) + VAT = TOTAL OF £351.38

Edited by P11 COV, 17 October 2007 - 05:57 PM.


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Posted 17 October 2007 - 06:10 PM

Did you get to have a look over the damage? Has it affected the shock/mounts, CV joint, brake line, handbrake etc :blink: If it's just the wheel arch liner you've got off very lightly :)

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 08:51 PM

Sorry to hear about that - how many is this now though, is it worth getting them replaced as a matter of course as I guess you can't tell if they're going to go pop...? :unsure:

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 08:54 PM

Sorry to hear about that - how many is this now though, is it worth getting them replaced as a matter of course as I guess you can't tell if they're going to go pop...? :unsure:

Linky to carrier bolt group buy organised by Winstar (still running) thumbsup

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 08:58 PM


Sorry to hear about that - how many is this now though, is it worth getting them replaced as a matter of course as I guess you can't tell if they're going to go pop...? :unsure:

Linky to carrier bolt group buy organised by Winstar (still running) thumbsup


Afraid not the last of them have just been sold.

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 09:37 PM

Did you get to have a look over the damage? Has it affected the shock/mounts, CV joint, brake line, handbrake etc :blink: If it's just the wheel arch liner you've got off very lightly :)


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Posted 17 October 2007 - 09:46 PM

Sorry to hear about that - how many is this now though, is it worth getting them replaced as a matter of course as I guess you can't tell if they're going to go pop...? :unsure:


Is a very scary thought though how likely are these to fail?

any comments on mileage to expect such things needing replacement?

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 09:54 PM

Thanks for the cheery thoughts thumbsup

Sorry chap, I've never seen the outcome of a failure so was just thinking what's in that area

Is it under warranty or are you going to pursue a claim through Vaux :huh:

Given the number of failures and the fact it's a safety related known fault I would imagine they may stump up the cost.

For the bolt to fail in shear under normal driving conditions defo shows that it is incorrectly specified - and the fact Lotus use the uprated version is even more evidence

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 05:11 PM

Has any one approached Vaux about this problem and id so what has been the response?

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 05:19 PM

Has any one approached Vaux about this problem and id so what has been the response?

in all honesty i dont think vauxhall always care
hope you have it fix soon

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 10:10 AM

Where can you buy these bolts from? Lotus? I am suddenly thinking I should buy some and fit them urgently for some reason :beat: Good luck with the repair!

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 10:59 AM

im sure these are sold on ebay

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 11:03 AM

im sure these are sold on ebay

Those are grade 12.9, the ones Lotus use are 10.9 (as per the ones Winstar managed to get hold of), the original ones Vaux use are 8.8 (or lower :blink: )

Trouble is most suppliers only stock the 12.9s

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 11:09 AM

Is it usually the rear that go? I have changed all mine except one rear which I could not get out. Its on my to do list. Hope the damage is not too bad, they appear to go without any sign.

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 11:13 AM


im sure these are sold on ebay

Those are grade 12.9, the ones Lotus use are 10.9 (as per the ones Winstar managed to get hold of), the original ones Vaux use are 8.8 (or lower :blink: )

Trouble is most suppliers only stock the 12.9s


What happens if you use 12.9's instead?




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