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#21 Jameshs

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:43 PM

find out yo'll be a rich man lol ;)



This year i think i will buy one and have a play with a local engine builder to see what can be done


you can build all you want but unless you can find someone to remap it or a standalone that does FBW then it'll be useless.



But its possible to run a cable so i would junk the FBW to be honest

How about just spending a few K's on the 2.2. Where would that get you?


It's got me to the mid 180's and a couple of others to 190'ish.

Given the ability to start again from scratch, I'd have just gone for the SC conversion. It seems to be the most cost effective big number increase. Will be really interesting to see how Muncher's work with Courtenays on a self-fit SC kit pans out. No idea what that will do to the cost of the conversion if/when it's finalised but will surely bring it down to under £4k.


Well if that is really going to be under 4 then i think i will wait

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:48 PM

Well if that is really going to be under 4 then i think i will wait


Pure speculation on my part - so please don't take it to the bank. thumbsup

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:48 PM

Well if that is really going to be under 4 then i think i will wait


Pure speculation on my part - so please don't take it to the bank. thumbsup



Dam lol

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:07 PM

I've can spend 5-6k but is it worth spending on a car thats done over 50k miles?

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:15 PM

I've can spend 5-6k but is it worth spending on a car thats done over 50k miles?



Thats more of a personal question as to what you want the outcome of the car to be? its all down to how long your going to keep it

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:22 PM

the engine is good for 200k IMO and think you wont get the return on the S/C anyway so i would imagine people who S/C their cars wouldnt really be looking to sell them on after

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:25 PM

the engine is good for 200k IMO and think you wont get the return on the S/C anyway so i would imagine people who S/C their cars wouldnt really be looking to sell them on after



Its sooo tempting to just ring and book it in for a stage 2 rallly

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:30 PM

if you got the money go for it boyo, you at the very least need some noise to come out of your car!

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:33 PM

if you got the money go for it boyo, you at the very least need some noise to come out of your car!



I was thinking of drilling the back box but then thought it wouldnt be loud enough so i have deicded to remove it. Now it sounds amazing, i do get the odd look from passers by but i just think they are jealous :rolleyes:

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:50 PM

you can shut up! Your the one who wanted to see my car so you could hear what a piper sounded like! ;)

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 04:59 PM

you can shut up! Your the one who wanted to see my car so you could hear what a piper sounded like! ;)



And i too will own one

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 08:12 PM

the 2.2 is easily tuned, it just depends what you want from the engine :unsure: it's not worth fitting a turbo as it's easier to buy a vxT thumbsup if you can live with the whine of a supercharger then it's a good upgrade, don't bother with a stage 1 just go straight for the Courtenay stage 2, the parts are mostly GM too. Expect between 200 and 260 BHP, depending on which stage you choose. if you prefer the sound of throttle bodies then the TMS supplied Webcon Alpha throttle bodies perform as good as they sound. To get the best from them requires a freeflow exhaust system including manifold, ported head, cams + double valve springs. Expect between 170 and 250 BHP depending on how extreme you go. for a budget build then buy a 2.4 inlet manifold, piper cams and a Dbilas exhaust manifold. Expect between 160 and 175 BHP depending on how your car responds to the mods.

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Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:38 AM

Thanks for all the replies, I'm in the middle off having a garage built at the moment so will put off the decision till that is finished. I think my 2 choices are strip and build the vx back up then have stage 2 or sell and buy the Lancia Stratos kit. Decisions decisions

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Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:44 AM

Mark have you been in an S/C car? if not get a ride, interesting let me tell you.

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Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:46 AM

Not yet have been in a tuned turbo and loved the power.

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Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:52 AM

Well get one :D you will notice the difference between the turbo and S/C setup.

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Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:55 AM

Not yet have been in a tuned turbo and loved the power.


It really depends on what you do with your VX and style of driving.

If you drive mainly on the road and are a SLJ then sell the NA and buy a tuned turbo.

If you spend time on track and/or want somthing with a linear power delivery then either highly a tuned TB engine or SC is the way to go.

It's horses for courses.

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Posted 27 August 2008 - 09:01 AM

:yeahthat: And WRT to the loss of 'investment' comment then i think the above is right, you'll never get back what you put in to a supercharger financially. Having said that, there has never been one for sale (execept MAX's car which wasn't road legal and Sam's which i believe he still has)

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Posted 27 August 2008 - 09:14 AM

the 2.2 is easily tuned, it just depends what you want from the engine :unsure:

it's not worth fitting a turbo as it's easier to buy a vxT thumbsup

if you can live with the whine of a supercharger then it's a good upgrade, don't bother with a stage 1 just go straight for the Courtenay stage 2, the parts are mostly GM too. Expect between 200 and 260 BHP, depending on which stage you choose.

if you prefer the sound of throttle bodies then the TMS supplied Webcon Alpha throttle bodies perform as good as they sound. To get the best from them requires a freeflow exhaust system including manifold, ported head, cams + double valve springs. Expect between 170 and 250 BHP depending on how extreme you go.

for a budget build then buy a 2.4 inlet manifold, piper cams and a Dbilas exhaust manifold. Expect between 160 and 175 BHP depending on how your car responds to the mods.



I know its a big job but whats the cost of running standalone managment with out FBW??

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Posted 27 August 2008 - 11:51 AM

Not yet have been in a tuned turbo and loved the power.


It really depends on what you do with your VX and style of driving.

If you drive mainly on the road and are a SLJ then sell the NA and buy a tuned turbo.

If you spend time on track and/or want somthing with a linear power delivery then either highly a tuned TB engine or SC is the way to go.

It's horses for courses.


yep - i have had a elise 111r for 1 day at the moment and it is a total PITA. HTF are you meant to drive around at 6000+rpm?? :unsure: Cant wait to get back into my 290lb/ft beast!!

i really dont think i will grow to love the 111r....




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