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#121 The Batman

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 10:42 PM

how hot does the inlet manifold get? when running higher power?

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 10:47 PM

:groupjump: :groupjump: :groupjump: :groupjump: Anyone up for a weekend meet at Joe's??? Congrats mate, glad it is finally done and you're so pleased! :D! Shame about having to buy a new ECU :( but its done right now thumbsup At 270hp I would have thought the bottom end (well the rods) are into the questionable zone now... I thought 250hp was the "safe" area, but please anyone feel free to correct me :lol: Great result though! The Vocky factor Imnotworthy !

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 10:52 PM

yup they are in there max element now, going to keep my revs down so its safe and then upgrade hopefully next winter.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 11:10 PM

how hot does the inlet manifold get?

when running higher power?


Dunno. MAXR might have an idea as his was running similar power before it went pop. I guess he's done some temperature monitoring at some point although he had the full monty ProAlloy charge cooler and twin fans. Did you do the twin pass mod on the Laminova cores as that's meant to help reduce the temperatures as well?

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 11:14 PM

At 270hp

I can't be arsed reading 7 pages worth of Joe's drivel :lol: But you're running 270 bhp now :blink:

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 11:14 PM

how hot does the inlet manifold get?

when running higher power?


Dunno. MAXR might have an idea as his was running similar power before it went pop. I guess he's done some temperature monitoring at some point although he had the full monty ProAlloy charge cooler and twin fans. Did you do the twin pass mod on the Laminova cores as that's meant to help reduce the temperatures as well?


this is what im going to do next, the duel pass mod and charge cooler with twin fans.

is the rad just the same as a normal rad? but with two fans on it?

does the normal rad sit under-neath the proalloy charge cooler with twin fans? or do you just use one rad?

edit - that is correct yob :D

Edited by joe_589, 26 February 2009 - 11:14 PM.


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Posted 26 February 2009 - 11:16 PM

Freaking hell :blink: More than me :angry: :P

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 11:17 PM

Freaking hell :blink: More than me :angry: :P


:P plus yours is a heavy lard :P

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 11:22 PM

:lol: Funnily enough 'and mine's lardy arsed' ran through my head as soon as I hit 'Add reply' :lol:

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 11:38 PM

this is what im going to do next, the duel pass mod and charge cooler with twin fans.

is the rad just the same as a normal rad? but with two fans on it?

does the normal rad sit under-neath the proalloy charge cooler with twin fans? or do you just use one rad?

edit - that is correct yob :D


Dual pass setup is meant to be a very effective mod and well worth doing. Might be worth getting some temperature monitoring strips and sticking one on the inlet if you do really want to know. Something like this (although I'm sure there are cheaper out there, not from Demon Thieves).

The ProAlloy pre-rad is slightly different to their uprated alloy radiator but there's not a lot in it. The pre-rad actually fits horizontally underneath the original radiator and it has the twin fans mounted on the underside of the pre-rad pushing the air up through the pre-rad and then on and up through the normal cooling system radiator. It's a fair bit of extra weight once all the coolant is in but very neat as you can't tell there is anything different to a standard car.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 11:42 PM

think this may have to be an option then. duel pass mod bigger cooling tank pro alloy rad with twin fans then rods and pistons balance deletion lightened flywheel clutch :rolleyes: while your doing one you might aswel do the rest :lol: bugger!

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 12:19 AM

Some pretty pictures of the charge cooler system here :)

I really would do the engine mods first - there's no way you'll be able to restrain yourself from using all the power on track, and the last thing you want is a rod failure

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 12:36 AM

270 BHP Imnotworthy Good work Joe. Long may your modding continue!

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 07:34 AM

wow, thats more than I expected, thought it would be 260 but 270bhp Imnotworthy that cylinder head does flow rather well :D

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 07:37 AM

so thats 270 at the fly? :wacko: please say you have steel rods in there!!!!!!! as its going to be about 300 at the crank once youve added the 30ish bhp needed to spin up the hEaton.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:02 AM

Nice one mate, i look forward to my go at LFG

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 10:10 AM

Hi Joe pleased you got home okay, I heard you go.. for some time!! I looked at the graphs again last night as I closeing the dyno PC down I suspect the fact that the graphs start to undulate from 6300 rpm is due to inlet air heat build up. I think the first issue due to your power is capacity in the CC system or lack off. So if you need to do the cooling mods in parts then it would probably be best to do a large header tank first this will double the systems capacity extending the heat soak time probably would make sense to do the duel pass mod at the same time as you will be changing the pipe run in the engine compartment. Then the the pre rad at the front. Just a thought, pleased you are enjoying it. Keep your Revs down :unsure: All the best Jon

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 10:59 AM

10 quid says you'll have rods in there by the end of March... :P

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 11:49 AM

10 quid says you'll have rods in there by the end of March... :P



Or and engine with holes in :lol:

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 11:50 AM

10 quid says you'll have rods in there by the end of March... :P



Or an engine with holes in :lol:


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Edited by snowwhite, 27 February 2009 - 11:50 AM.





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