187 replies to this topic

[badgerade]

Those manufacturers need to include a suggested period in between cleans, otherwise how can we tell which is best?

[JohnTurbo]

:-) I was doing EBC but laptop died. Haha.

[slindborg]

:-) I was doing EBC but laptop died. Haha.

Ebc - shite, you'd be a doodah to use them*


* I ran them on my omega and they were ace, they suit lardy cars.

[JohnTurbo]

My Skyline had Yellows...boy that thing stopped.

[slindborg]

My Skyline had Yellows...boy that thing stopped.

They aren't famous for being light though

[rob999]

Aimy, how about replace the pads with very efficient sponges?

[JohnTurbo]

Mine was 1300kg...its not THAT heavy.

[ghand]

Mine was 1300kg...its not THAT heavy.

Which half ?

That not bad.

[JohnTurbo]

400/1.3 = 308bhp/ton 262/.930 = 282bhp/ton....so still some way to go for me. Hehe.

[Bumblebee]

.......I feel stage 4 coming along

[ghand]

400/1.3 = 308bhp/ton

262/.930 = 282bhp/ton....so still some way to go for me. Hehe.

308 bhp/ton or 282 bhp/ton on Applecross pass or similar,now let me think

Lets see your 308 bhp/ton Skyline keep up with my na on Hardknot pass at the weekend

[JohnTurbo]

Assuming its a perfectly straight pass with warm, wide, flat, sticky tarmac?

[ghand]

Assuming its a perfectly straight pass with warm, wide, flat, sticky tarmac?

[DarrylB]

I repeat....if you protect your wheels with a good sealant like jetseal 109 or gtechniq C5 for example, then any amount of brake dust will just wash off.

[FLD]

Performance Friction Compounds

90 compound
This compound has been a favorite of race driving schools because of its modulation characteristics. Used exclusively at race schools such as Bob Bondurant, Derek Daly, and Jim Russell because of is forgiving nature. 90 Compounds is very easy on the discs, yet has higher cold bite than 83 compound along with less torque rise for improved modulation. 90 Compound has been replaced by 97 in most applications, but is still available in a limited number of applications.

97 compound
This compound has been a favorite of sportscar endurance racing although it's initial development was through CART Champ Cars. 97 compounds have won races in CART, ALMS, Grand Am, and ASA. It is also a preferred pad for touring car and rally. Higher bite than 90 compound with slightly higher torque. Great modulation, very flat torque curve with enhanced release characteristics. 97 compounds are very easy on the discs, with very low wear. This compound is becoming a favorite of driving schools because it shares similar characteristics as 90 compounds but even less wear. Highly recommended as a general-purpose pad for all venues, as well as staining the sh*t out of your wheels.

01 compound
01 is one of the most popular race compounds in the PFC's arsenal. Slightly higher bite and torque for the first 2/3's of the stop than 83 compound. At the end of the stop, 01 compound has less torque scatter for improved modulation with excellent release and a flat torque curve. 01 compound is very easy on the discs with very low wear, on par with 83 compounds.

06 Compound
06 compound pads are very similar to PFC 01 for both bite and torque, within 4% of those values. Excellent release and control with very low wear. Very low abraded disc wear with a “powdery type” transfer layer. 06 pads are an excellent alternative to other brands of endurance compounds but with much higher performance. Excellent for club racing type shapes as well in OE brake calipers where ABS is used.

08 compound
08 compound is one of PFC newest and have gained immediate favor in Endurance Sportscar, and GT racing due to its performance in applications where smooth initial bite is a must. 08 have a slight friction rise with temperature, excellent release and modulation characteristics, and very low abraded disc wear. In addition to its considerable performance, 08 wears the longest of all PFC pads and easily matches wear of the other competitors with much higher bite.

07 compound
PFC’s newest high bite and torque compound and has gained immediate favor in the NASCAR, Sportscar, and Open Wheel racing due to its unsurpassed performance. 07 have higher initial bite and higher average torque than any other PFC compound. 07 will have some friction rise with temperature for the most severe applications. The release and modulation characteristics are second to none. Very low abraded disc wear with a fine micronic polished disc finish. Despite its considerable performance, 07 will have slightly better wear than 05. This compound demands the most from the vehicle setup and is designed to handle the most severe applications.

Thats all very interesting but I find manufacturers always put positive things about their pads. Is there any experience that says "this one for fast road", "this one for track" etc. That'd really help someone like me that can't be bothered to research it all.

[siztenboots]

for the PFC in our calipers, then you can only get 01 and 08 front and 97 rears, easily available afaik

[FLD]

for the PFC in our calipers, then you can only get 01 and 08 front and 97 rears, easily available afaik

How about in the lotarse 4 pots?

[siztenboots]

for the PFC in our calipers, then you can only get 01 and 08 front and 97 rears, easily available afaik

How about in the lotarse 4 pots?

7834.01.14.44 , is the pattern part number for the AP 4 pot, the second digit is the compound

[slindborg]

for the PFC in our calipers, then you can only get 01 and 08 front and 97 rears, easily available afaik

I ran 97's front and rear, that was about 4 years ago though.

[FLD]

for the PFC in our calipers, then you can only get 01 and 08 front and 97 rears, easily available afaik

I ran 97's front and rear, that was about 4 years ago though.

What did you think of them? I currently have 1144's if you want to make a comparison.