Jump to content


Photo

Traction - Lack Thereof!

Started by Dunk , Dec 27 2012 09:35 PM
traction TC slippery cold damp

  • Please log in to reply
57 replies to this topic

#41 ghand

ghand

    Drunken lampposts only

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,215 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:St helens merseyside
  • Interests:Whisky.Keeping reptiles.Cars.
    The odd bike ride, fell walk and weights
    Oh and more whisky

Posted 29 December 2012 - 08:24 PM


Get some tyres that have got an A or at worst B wet rating as its fcuking wet all the time in this country :lol: or cold

We have three days hot weather per year and a lot puts tyres on that are sh*t in the cold /wet ?

But I suppose they are awesome on them three days :lol: if you push to the limits of them in the sun that is.

Not sure I get this tyre choice thing,

Mine is low solid and will p*ss past anything in the wet/cold no problem, than again it has no power :lol:

AD08's are B rated for wet braking. Although they are not meant for temperatures around 0 degrees according to Yokohama. I use mine all year round but do take it easy at this time of year.


Yours seemed ok In the Lakes on the wet bits, They stopped ok (phew) at one point I remember :lol:

#42 Dunk

Dunk

    Need to get Out More

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,224 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Edinburgh
  • Interests:WLTM reliable, quiet, tidy one for LTR.

Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:44 PM


Very stiff springs seemed to not help me either, when I moved to the CF ARB setup and on 450 rears my rear traction improved massively.... But it's more likely to make a difference on worse surfaces that a flat motorway I reckon?


This is interesting. I would like enough compliance to make it more exploitable on less than perfect surfaces. Right now it feels too skittish on uneven/broken surfaces to get anything out of the engine's performance.

It could be that the rubber/weather is the main issue but it does feel very stiffly sprung.

Bloody hell! These things really are money pits when you get into 'sorting' them.


Does your car have adjustable shocks on it or is it the standard jobbies?
You really need the dampening to be good when you are driving around edinburgh. The roads round here are awful.


It's definitely adjustable...I think. I wasn't paying attention when I bought it. I have one of those suspension adjustment tools. Don't know what's fitted though.

I'll check when I'm back home...

#43 G-Bob

G-Bob

    Embarrassing VX's in an MX5

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,256 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:West Lothian
  • Interests:Silver VX Bashing!

Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:47 PM

The adjustment tool will be for the height rather than dampening. If you can adjust the dampeners then there will be a little rotating click-wheel on the shock.

#44 Lou_m

Lou_m

    Addicted to Hooning

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,904 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Fife
  • Interests:Cars, motorsport, cycling

Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:52 PM

Could be worth getting the geo checked?

#45 G-Bob

G-Bob

    Embarrassing VX's in an MX5

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,256 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:West Lothian
  • Interests:Silver VX Bashing!

Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:56 PM

Could be worth getting the geo checked?


:yeahthat:

LY_Scott and I are going over to visit John for tyres/geo etc. Just after the new year so your welcome to come along if you like.

Will need to arrange a date but it'll be some time soon.

#46 Dunk

Dunk

    Need to get Out More

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,224 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Edinburgh
  • Interests:WLTM reliable, quiet, tidy one for LTR.

Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:07 PM

I don't think you have posted what air pressure you have put in your rear tyres as if its quiet high then this would easily step the back end out in the wet, I have the same tyres and stage your running my pressure is 24p.s.i in the rears and would say I have a aggressive driving style and haven't found that problem in the wet obviously in first and second on load , but not 3rd .......


I'm running 23/25 psi. With 425lb rear springs and damping set as soft as possible without reducing grip. The more you get involved with motorsport the more you realize softer is usually grippier - its hard to get your head round to begin with.

AD08's are great but not cut out for reducing wheelspin this time of year.

Kind regards, Paul


Thanks gentlemen. :)

I'll check tyre pressures at some point soon; probably next weekend, when I'm home

#47 Dunk

Dunk

    Need to get Out More

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,224 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Edinburgh
  • Interests:WLTM reliable, quiet, tidy one for LTR.

Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:27 PM

Could be worth getting the geo checked?


:yeahthat:

LY_Scott and I are going over to visit John for tyres/geo etc. Just after the new year so your welcome to come along if you like.

Will need to arrange a date but it'll be some time soon.


Cool. Let me know when & I'll see if I can make it.

I'm fairly sure the geo was done reasonably recently. Don't know what set up was specified though.

I suspect it may have been:
"SPINE-CRUSHINGLY HARSH PLEASE."

To each their own...

#48 ghand

ghand

    Drunken lampposts only

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,215 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:St helens merseyside
  • Interests:Whisky.Keeping reptiles.Cars.
    The odd bike ride, fell walk and weights
    Oh and more whisky

Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:22 PM

Could be worth getting the geo checked?


:yeahthat:

LY_Scott and I are going over to visit John for tyres/geo etc. Just after the new year so your welcome to come along if you like.

Will need to arrange a date but it'll be some time soon.


Cool. Let me know when & I'll see if I can make it.

I'm fairly sure the geo was done reasonably recently. Don't know what set up was specified though.

I suspect it may have been:
"SPINE-CRUSHINGLY HARSH PLEASE."

To each their own...


Perfect,you need it so you can tell if its a light shadow or a dark shadow when you go over it :lol:

Then you go out in a standard and it feels like a boat :lol: (better for your spine and fillings though)

To each their own....


.

Edited by ghand, 30 December 2012 - 02:27 PM.

#49 Dunk

Dunk

    Need to get Out More

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,224 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Edinburgh
  • Interests:WLTM reliable, quiet, tidy one for LTR.

Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:57 PM

Update: Went out for a few blats today. Big difference. No traction or grip problems at all. Quite the opposite. Really impressed by how it corners. None of the initial understeer tendencies of my old standard Tubby. Today's conditions: 10C-12C & bone dry. So...a fair example if what it should be like on a day in the height of Summer in Edinburgh.

#50 VXR

VXR

    Need to get Out More

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 986 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lichfield Staffs

Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:22 PM

Nice one! Glad you've got it sorted,I'm getting some new suspension and a geo next month so hope mines an easy fix like yours was! You just need some dry roads now so you can test it to the limit. :-)

#51 MrSimba

MrSimba

    Scary Internerd

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,197 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK

Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:25 PM

you out to play at the Midlands Meet tomorrow Ian? :)

#52 VXR

VXR

    Need to get Out More

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 986 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lichfield Staffs

Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:01 PM

you out to play at the Midlands Meet tomorrow Ian? :)/>


I've toyed with the idea of coming but then remembered how much work was involved giving it a massive clean and putting it away for winter and don't fancy all the cleaning again,lol
http://i167.photobuc...1209_134922.jpg
http://i167.photobuc...1209_150418.jpg
http://i167.photobuc...1209_150408.jpg
http://i167.photobuc...83/IMG_1490.jpg

Edited by VXR, 05 January 2013 - 09:07 PM.

#53 MrSimba

MrSimba

    Scary Internerd

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,197 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK

Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:07 PM

Cars are meant to be driven! :P

#54 VXR

VXR

    Need to get Out More

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 986 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lichfield Staffs

Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:11 PM

Cars are meant to be driven! :P

I can't drive on dry roads, damp roads are a no no!!

#55 Bumblebee

Bumblebee

    .....

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,592 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:York

Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:19 PM

you out to play at the Midlands Meet tomorrow Ian? :)/>


I've toyed with the idea of coming but then remembered how much work was involved giving it a massive clean and putting it away for winter and don't fancy all the cleaning again,lol
http://i167.photobuc...1209_134922.jpg
http://i167.photobuc...1209_150418.jpg
http://i167.photobuc...1209_150408.jpg
http://i167.photobuc...83/IMG_1490.jpg

I like the deep concentration on the first pic hehe

#56 VXR

VXR

    Need to get Out More

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 986 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lichfield Staffs

Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:34 PM

Heres another one just for you,bumblebee http://i167.photobuc...1209_134130.jpg Sorry to hijack thread but MrSimba started it :-)

Edited by VXR, 05 January 2013 - 09:34 PM.

#57 Mangham54

Mangham54

    Wannabe....

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,034 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Baaaaarrrrnnnnssssllleeeeyyyy

Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:41 PM

So has the car had any work, or was it just road temperatures.

#58 Dunk

Dunk

    Need to get Out More

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,224 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Edinburgh
  • Interests:WLTM reliable, quiet, tidy one for LTR.

Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:02 PM

Ha ha. No worries. That's impressively shiny. Mine will never be like that. Nope Chris. I took it out to get a baseline before I messed around with tyre pressures or anything & it felt AWESOME straight away. Big grins. Burnt through the best part of a tank today. :-D
Back to VX220 Discussion



Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: traction, TC, slippery, cold, damp

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

  1. VX220 Owners Club
  2. → General Discussion
  3. → VX220 Discussion
  4. Privacy Policy