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[JimmyJamJerusalem]

Can I ask why a lot of you s/c boys are choosing to go with the Dutch ecu and not adaptronic?

Of course you can. You can ask whatever you like

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Yep i think im going dutch. Whats the crack with this Wide band lambada. What does it do and do i need it?

have a read of this i have read it three times now and everytime i read it again i find more info out


http://www.obdtuner....alV2.5.1.19.pdf

Edited by Chill, 04 April 2013 - 06:56 PM.

[The Batman]

60lb if going harrop

[smiley]

Can I ask why a lot of you s/c boys are choosing to go with the Dutch ecu and not adaptronic?

The dutch ecu is a reflash of the tunable part of the tables, and gives an easy to learn client software gui, with parametrised options to set it all. The oem part that controls the rest of the car electronics stay as they were.
You just plug in you're existing 2 connector plugs, and you're ready to go.
Adaptronic means loosing functionality, rerouting/chopping cables, and doing it all from scratch. A lot more work.

[Bargi]

Fat arse 630cc injectors and raising blocks
1. Jjj
2. Haggi
3. Bargi
4. Davemate
5. Nickb777

Wide band lambada
1. Chill dependant on price
2. Bargi

Edited by Bargi, 05 April 2013 - 09:43 AM.

[chris_uk]

Fat arse 630cc injectors and raising blocks
1. Jjj
2. Haggi
3. Bargi
4. Davemate
5. Nickb777

Wide band lambada
1. Chill dependant on price
2. Bargi
3. Chris

[Nev]

Because you have a ported head and a good exhaust I think your boost will
stay below 2.5 bar with the Harrop.

Is that really true? To make circa 380 BHP you have to generate 2.5 Bar of boost? That seems very high for a 2.2 Ltr engine, even with supercharger parasytic losses? Perhaps he meant 1.5 Bar (ie 2.5 BAR MAP))???

Edited by Nev, 05 April 2013 - 12:11 PM.

[The Batman]

It will stay way below 2.5bar These are standard lsj sensors which I have a few spare!!

Edited by joe_589, 05 April 2013 - 01:41 PM.

[The Batman]

With regards to the wide band I am only going to get a price on the aem one which comes with a gauge as this is the only one I have had experience with and one of the best ones I found and liked the look off!

[JimmyJamJerusalem]

So siemens 50lb injectors.....

[chris_uk]

So aem wideband lambda's...

[haggi961]

Fat arse 630cc injectors and raising blocks
1. Jjj
2. Haggi
3. Bargi
4. Davemate
5. Nickb777

Wide band lambada
1. Chill dependant on price
2. Bargi
3. Chris
4. haggi961

[davemate]

Fat arse 630cc injectors and raising blocks
1. Jjj
2. Haggi
3. Bargi
4. Davemate
5. Nickb777

Wide band lambada
1. Chill dependant on price
2. Bargi
3. Chris
4. haggi961
5. Davemate

[Thealastair34]

Might help but I run vxr injectors on my 1600 turbo build, I'm running 3,5 bar fuel pressure rising rate 1-1 and I maxed the injectors out on the rollers at 335 bhp on Friday

[haggi961]

I also read they start to max out at about 330bhp

[smiley]

I also read they start to max out at about 330bhp

Wasen't that Mike's harrop, set to max 330 due to fuel pump not coping?
I thought Rik's first run did 370 isch on those.

[chris_uk]

I also read they start to max out at about 330bhp

Wasen't that Mike's harrop, set to max 330 due to fuel pump not coping?
I thought Rik's first run did 370 isch on those.

yup, your right, nick also got 377 on the vxr injectors.. granted your upping the fuel pressure but i dont see an issue with that, as long as the VXR inj are running at no more than 80% there should be no probs.

like i said before, and joe before me.. the intake temps start getting too hot above 350/360 bhp anyway so regardless what injectors you are running the issue is intake temps not injectors. if you added meth into the equasion then the extra cooling will help and the extra octane from the meth would also mean you can carry on running vxr's up to 380bhp maybe even more.. who knows.

main things that i have come to learn is that aslong as your inj isnt going above 80% for massive amounts of time then they should be ok.

[haggi961]

I can see your point but i think i would rather go the next injector and run say 50% of the injector and not have to up the fuel pressure at all. Just me being extra safe as im not a fan of upping the fuel pressure to 4.5 bar to get the injectors to run smooth.

[haggi961]

Here is a post from a guy running a harrop and vxr injectors My B207/harrop@75mm maxed out vxr injectors with 4.5bar above 6200 to 100% injector duty cycle. Problem is that the ecu cannot run the injecors between 90 and 100 percent. Above 90 percent it is always 100% injected. Im am running 630ccm injectors with oem fuel pressure. Everything is fine.

[Exmantaa]

Were the VXR's not running around 5 bar static pressure for that 370? Add 1,5 bar boost in that equation (yes, the Harrop will push that on the smaller pulleys!) and your pump needs to flow a decent amount of fuel @ 6.5 bar.... (Ow, and forget the higher rpm's where the inj dutycycle skyrockets..)

Edited by Exmantaa, 15 April 2013 - 11:10 PM.