So, Quantum reliability, any returns?
I'm not really the right person to ask that of, I am aware of a handful that have been returned to be looked at, but I don't have the detail - you would need to ask Quantum/EP this, they are the ones that actually see/deal with this stuff.
Nitron went through a period of selling dampers too short for the VX. I had them sort that out many moons ago now though.
Yes, I understand (from Nitron) that the later ones are different, but they are still only 402mm open length (ie, ~7mm longer), ie, bugger all in it and still some 25-30mm too short.
Simon, I was being intentionally obtuse quoting the droop figures but it is no different to what you are doing with your disingenuous comments. You've latched on to what seems to be a genuine mistake made by a reputable company and you seem to be quoting that as gospel for all of their products.... Chris has pointed out that this was dealt with a long lont time ago (I've certainly never seen a case of this) so change the record mate.
We all know Nitron and Quantum both make great shocks and I supply both as I believe in the products. I'm not here to slag off one to promote the other but Simon it seems you are.
You dodge direct questions and just reply with the odd "fact" and insult..... Not cricket old bean.
I've not read that other thread yet but was shocked to see the video of Nicks car. Nick have you spoken to Nitron about this?
Look, you can jump up and down all you like, if you want to get all arsey about it, go for it, however, it does not change the basic facts.
I note that in all your winging, you have yet to offer one single piece of hard data on any of these threads, only that they are great - really objective stuff.
the simple facts are that for whatever reason, Nitrons std offering (both old and new) are physically spec'ed wrong for the VX, in that their open length is too short, leading to the closed length being short enough for wishbone/subframe contact to me made (something already mentioned by others about various dampers).
Look, this stuff is not rocket science, if you can't even get the basic measurements right when making stuff, what hope is there for the 'cleaver' stuff?
As for the video, I took that when Matt was working on Nicks car and commented about the lack of droop, seeing it like that makes it pretty obvious what the issues are.
No, I have not spoken to Nitron about it, why is it my job to tell them how to make dampers?
Yes, Nitron have been asked about this specific set of dampers (by Matt on behalf of Nick), the reply came back that these are pre-2010 ones and the post 2010 ones are 402mm long (ie, +~7mm), they have offered to change them to current sped (at a cost).
the problem with that is the current spec is still wrong.
All that said, I am sure your going to pour more scorn on me for pointing out the blindingly obvious and how it's all my fault etc etc...