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[simonlpearce]

For the time being i do, well at least i will pretend to so i can keep the Mrs happy and get married in church next year.

 

What about hell then? If there is a heaven does that mean there is a hell?

[Foxy]

 If you aren't sure speak to someone appropriate.

 

A psychologist? 

[Boombang]

If you like.

[Duncan VXR]

he is not the messiah he's a naughty naughty boy

 

[mbes2]

Google has more answers than god

 

Plus, aliens are real 

 

People can believe in anything they wish if they feel it makes them happy.

Edited by mbes2, 11 December 2013 - 11:25 AM.

[Mangham54]

People can believe in anything they wish if they feel it makes them happy and it effects / harms no-one else.

 

Mostly true - I cannot agree to those who believe Paedophillia or Genocide etc. Hence the addition

 

I got married in a CofE Church and have been baptized and confirmed in that institution / interpretation of religion.

 

I am very interested in mathematics and science and that leads to more questions than answers on this topic - despite what some may say (my opinion).

 

Would I say I am a Christian? Maybe, would I say I am a Muslim, probably not etc etc. Does it matter with whom I affiliate myself? To me nope, to others possibly. However I tend to live my life to the fundamentals that underpin most religions, that of treating people as people... irrespective of race/religion/culture/ethnicity/gender/sexual preference etc etc.

 

Unfortunately I work with a small number of individuals that like to make a point of their religious beliefs. Some of these have a habit of being outright contradictions to what they preach/should believe in. Do I judge them, nope - do I respect them not a personal level not really (though is that a judgement in itself?

 

So my belief is that though there may be some 'great creator/facilitator etc' or not, for those who are interested it maybe answered in this life, at the end of it or never at all. Does it matter?

 

I find hatred through religious sectarianism deplorable, especially when you consider the fundamental principles of those religions.

 

Anyway

Edited by Mangham54, 11 December 2013 - 12:50 PM.

[jameso]

No harm in this thread IMO as long as it stays mature and doesn't resort to insults. Don't open it if you aren't interested

[Gedi]

No harm in this thread IMO as long as it stays mature and doesn't resort to insults. Don't open it if you aren't interested

 

I'm interested in watching this thread go horribly wrong, so I'm gonna have to keep opening it

[RabnaKS]

This is off topic, should be able to discuss what you want in my opinion & the amount of replies in the thread shows members are willing to respond. I come from a family who suposed to  be religious. One of my sisters didn't  get what she wanted out of mainstream religion so now she's a member of a happy clappy brigade. Lol. Me personnaly, don't give a sh!t.

[casino]

I believe in God. Problem is I don't think he believes too much in me. Oh well...

 

And as this is sat here in Off Topic I see no reason why this shouldnt be discussed here. Its an excellent subject to debate.  

[ghand]

If it offends anyone click off I say. If we have a god then I don't want anything to do with him and I have a few good reasons for this over the years. I would love to chat with him tell him what I think of him then turn around and walk off to a warm place

[spuk87]

I'm 99% atheist but until I see proof either way, I don't think any human can be certain that there is or is not a god(s).

[anz3001]

If it offends anyone click off I say. If we have a god then I don't want anything to do with him and I have a few good reasons for this over the years. I would love to chat with him tell him what I think of him then turn around and walk off to a warm place

 

judging by your recent list of 'near death' escapes surely you must believe somebody is watching over you! lol

[Harry Hornet]

Just interested.

 

...why you ask????

 

...moi..I believe in goodness,.... and dont like badness.....

 

..listened to General Lord Richard Dannatt today....who is not only 40 years an army man and has pulled the trigger, but also a devout christian...he made alot of sense

 

HH

[RabnaKS]

If it offends anyone click off I say. If we have a god then I don't want anything to do with him and I have a few good reasons for this over the years. I would love to chat with him tell him what I think of him then turn around and walk off to a warm place

Who was looking after you on that "lucky" day Mr Hand? Fairies? Only joking, I feel the same.  While I'm what I believe agnostic definitely not athiest?

[myles]

No. Very little convinces me there might be a God, and so much convinces me that there is no way there is a higher being driven by love.

[ghand]

If it offends anyone click off I say. If we have a god then I don't want anything to do with him and I have a few good reasons for this over the years. I would love to chat with him tell him what I think of him then turn around and walk off to a warm place

  judging by your recent list of 'near death' escapes surely you must believe somebody is watching over you! lol

Had a few of them but when you watch a 4 year old die from lukemier or your mate go from a 14 stone athlete to a 6 stone corpse with cancer before your eyes and I could reel off sh*t loads that's happened and is happening in my life you think god is a joke. Try telling all them that died in the church when the roof fell in as they prayed to god "it's gods will" come on someone is taking the p*ss. The worst thieving murderer can go all his life being the most evil person on the planet then on his death bed beg forgiveness and float up to heaven, while a decent good willed person who does nothing bad all his life burns in hell as he is not a Christian come on its a joke. What's the cut off age for kids going to hell or heaven 9, 12, 16, another joke. Oh and evolution has been proved, I love the quote in the bible that says god made the dinosaurs that ruled the world for millions and millions of years then we pop up last week, oh it does not

[YorkieAndrew]

One of the things for me is the rules & regulations of a specific religion are picked at & chosen by individuals who only want to follow/believe in what suits them.

[turbobob]

If it floats your boat then so be it, for me, there is no proof either way so until I'm proven wrong I will say no.

 

Pretty much sentiments. I can understand some people believing and having a need to believe. But for me. I'm an engineer so I like logic. And there is no proof. So I would also have to say no. 

 

As for this thread. I see no reason for it to be deleted. Nobody has objected. Just a few people suggesting it may get out of hand. 

[Wolfstone]

Many Christians I have come across have been hypocrites.