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Poll: God belief (119 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you believe in a god?

  1. No. I have no good evidence to believe in any god (77 votes [64.71%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 64.71%

  2. Don't know. I haven't thought about it much (3 votes [2.52%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.52%

  3. Don't know. I have thought about it but can't decide. (12 votes [10.08%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.08%

  4. Yes. I believe in a god but can't really describe why (7 votes [5.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

  5. Yes. I believe in a god and can describe this god and why I believe it is exists. (12 votes [10.08%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.08%

  6. I'm not religious but spiritualist. (4 votes [3.36%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.36%

  7. I have no opinion. (4 votes [3.36%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.36%

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 12:13 PM

There you go again. Science to the rescue. Trying to understand everything using Science. 

 

Now try looking at things without the usual human restrictions imposed. Have a think about the possibilities then. ..   

 

1. Science to the rescue - for the lucky one third of the world who have a decent standard of living (that's us!) all of the things that make our life comfortable and worth living come from trying to understand (and in a lot of cases succeeding) things using science.

 

2. The restrictions aren't human, they are the laws of physics which are observable, testable and tangible, unlike any god or religious ideas.

 

One of the major differences between religion and science is that religion demands what you must believe and will never admit to being wrong.

 

Scientific method depends on every statement of fact being challenged until something is either retracted or proven right.



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Posted 18 September 2015 - 12:47 PM

Although to be fair, Theoretical Physics is mostly madeup bullshit :lol:



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Posted 18 September 2015 - 12:56 PM

An atheist is a man with no invisible means of support.



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Posted 18 September 2015 - 06:58 PM

Although to be fair, Theoretical Physics is mostly madeup bullshit :lol:

I would like to see you and Stephen Hawking have a debate! :-)

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 07:45 PM

In the beginning, man created god.

👍🏻 Why, because religion was used as the law to control people, keep people in line, make them live in fear!

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 07:52 PM

There you go again. Science to the rescue. Trying to understand everything using Science.    Now try looking at things without the usual human restrictions imposed. Have a think about the possibilities then. ..   

  1. Science to the rescue - for the lucky one third of the world who have a decent standard of living (that's us!) all of the things that make our life comfortable and worth living come from trying to understand (and in a lot of cases succeeding) things using science.   2. The restrictions aren't human, they are the laws of physics which are observable, testable and tangible, unlike any god or religious ideas.   One of the major differences between religion and science is that religion demands what you must believe and will never admit to being wrong.   Scientific method depends on every statement of fact being challenged until something is either retracted or proven right.
Science is an easy get-out. Just measure it analyse it. Scrutinise it. And if it all ads up Bobs your Uncle sorted. In the greater scheme of things science is like a toy given to a child to keep it happy. To help it make a sense of its world. Wake up fella, the greater scheme of things is way way way way way beyond Science. Completley different league, world, time zone or whatever you want to call it. God can't be measured by mere science. Get yer mind right. Start thinking beyond beyond way beyond science. I can hardly type from laughing at the thought of God being measurable and accountable to science. Read the bible...you'll see countless examples of God pissing all over science. Get your head round all this and you'll begin to understand that belief in God is based on soo much more than blind obedience.

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 08:06 PM

I bet we could have Pope Casino, when this guy in the party frock dies or resigns like the previous one?😉

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 08:08 PM

Religion vs science is a strange debate. I don't think they're trying to answer the same question. Science = how does the universe work? Religion = why? What's the point? Although, I think I prefer the science answer to "why" ;)

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Posted 18 September 2015 - 09:46 PM

 

 

There you go again. Science to the rescue. Trying to understand everything using Science.    Now try looking at things without the usual human restrictions imposed. Have a think about the possibilities then. ..   

  1. Science to the rescue - for the lucky one third of the world who have a decent standard of living (that's us!) all of the things that make our life comfortable and worth living come from trying to understand (and in a lot of cases succeeding) things using science.   2. The restrictions aren't human, they are the laws of physics which are observable, testable and tangible, unlike any god or religious ideas.   One of the major differences between religion and science is that religion demands what you must believe and will never admit to being wrong.   Scientific method depends on every statement of fact being challenged until something is either retracted or proven right.
Science is an easy get-out. Just measure it analyse it. Scrutinise it. And if it all ads up Bobs your Uncle sorted. In the greater scheme of things science is like a toy given to a child to keep it happy. To help it make a sense of its world. Wake up fella, the greater scheme of things is way way way way way beyond Science. Completley different league, world, time zone or whatever you want to call it. God can't be measured by mere science. Get yer mind right. Start thinking beyond beyond way beyond science. I can hardly type from laughing at the thought of God being measurable and accountable to science. Read the bible...you'll see countless examples of God pissing all over science. Get your head round all this and you'll begin to understand that belief in God is based on soo much more than blind obedience.

 

 

Science is an easy get-out. Just measure it analyse it. Scrutinise it. And if it all ads up Bobs your Uncle sorted. In the greater scheme of things science is like a toy given to a child to keep it happy. To help it make a sense of its world.

 

You clearly don't understand science at all.

 

Wake up fella, the greater scheme of things is way way way way way beyond Science. Completley different league, world, time zone or whatever you want to call it. God can't be measured by mere science. Get yer mind right. Start thinking beyond beyond way beyond science.

 

Something that doesn't exist can't be measured by science or anything else. Trouble is people can't cope with the fact that they are conscious and self aware. Just just over-thinking it.

 

I can hardly type from laughing at the thought of God being measurable and accountable to science. Read the bible...you'll see countless examples of God pissing all over science.

 

It does annoy me when people just take for granted the benefits afforded by the hard work of many scientists and engineers over hundreds of years and then just mock them. I have rtried reading the bible and find it a bunch of niaive condescending bunch of moral tales. Glad you are having fun.

Get your head round all this and you'll begin to understand that belief in God is based on soo much more than blind obedience.

 

My head is right where I want it - squarely on my shoulders with my feet on the ground. Fortunately I haven't had the benefit of a childhood of indoctrination like a lot of people.  



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Posted 18 September 2015 - 10:21 PM

Casino, when ever you get corned by a question that forces you to use any kind of logic to explain your beliefs you come up with this 'god's bigger than all that' argument.

 

Arguing with the wilfully deluded - it's like trying to nail jelly to a wall.



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Posted 20 September 2015 - 07:15 AM

It does annoy me when people just take for granted the benefits afforded by the hard work of God over billions of years and then just mock Him. All because God can nail jelly to a wall without any scientific explanation.

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Posted 20 September 2015 - 08:54 PM

Don't know why it annoys you as god will get his own back by burning me for all eternity when I die.

 

....but he loves me.



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Posted 21 September 2015 - 08:37 AM

I nailed jelly to the wall...she was a right dirty minx

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:27 PM

So look what our science has found out in just a few hundred years. Think what our science will know in a few thousand years from now. Just my view but it's only a matter of time before science knows everything. Science may even find a GOD :lol: If and when science can prove a God exists then great I will believe in it. Seems to me the best person to prove God exists is God himself. Now that's a radical thought "look it's me GOD now do you believe in me " but no that's just to easy and to sensible for us.

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:40 PM

I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.

 

It's just one big lazy way of trying to gain an understanding of life, the universe and everything.

 

One thing I've noticed about religious people is they can't accept the idea of oblivion, or that there's no meaning or reason to life.

 

Instead, they invent a god, or believe in an invented god, because they can't face the reality.



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Posted 22 September 2015 - 07:01 PM

Grist to the mill.

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 10:54 PM

Love the comment about religious people drink less, Time for a refill :lol:

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 08:54 AM

Religion was invented much the same as anything else we have done in the past. Because we had no real explanation for how things worked at the time.

 

1000 years ago, we didn't know jack. We had no idea what shape the earth even was. What the stars and sun were. There were a few radicals that proposed the earth orbited this glowing ball in the sky and that it was round but they were shunned by the fanatics. Just in the way that religion still mocks science as you are doing now casino. Nothing has changed in that respect.

 

Fortunately now we are enlightened enough to not make sh*t up when we don't understand it.



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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:31 AM

Make sh*t up that we don't understand ourselves that is. As Richard Feynman once said: 'I think it's safe to say that no one understands Quantum Mechanics.' That from someone who received a Nobel prize for his work in that area. And after that it just got worse. Look at String Theory (or Super String Theory or M-Theory). It seems at the level of elementary particles things do not jibe with how we perceive reality. Which stands to reason, but doesn't make things easier.



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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:52 AM

Then why not just accept there's a god then you don't have to bother thinking about it?






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