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[CocoPops]

What is the 0-60mph diff between a turbo and a SC

  Very little, but then that's hardly the point of these cars...   Ever thought about an Astra VXR? 

No, he's more an SL500 man.

[Graeme Lambert]

 

 

What is the 0-60mph diff between a turbo and a SC

  Very little, but then that's hardly the point of these cars...   Ever thought about an Astra VXR? 

 

No, he's more an SL500 man.

 

 

Won't the Astra be quicker from 0-60mph?  

[CocoPops]

Yes, but "who wouldn't want an SL500"

[G-Bob]

  I have other cars to use so more than likely wouldnt sell it if it was supercharged as i could use it occasionally but just wanted to make sure the money i spend wasnt going down the drain.  

  Don't go there then. Most SC VX's go about 2k over their NA price. (after investing 3.2)   

Really?!?!? Most NA's are going for £5-7k at the moment. Can't say I've seen a lot of SC cars up for sale for £7-9k. I think its nearer £3-3.5k more.

[smiley]

 

Really?!?!? Most NA's are going for £5-7k at the moment. Can't say I've seen a lot of SC cars up for sale for £7-9k. I think its nearer £3-3.5k more.

 

 

State of the NA to begin with certainly helps.

A 100k miles NA being SC´ed versus a 40K one.

 

5 to 6K NA´s are the bottom of the market, and do not bring 9K just by slapping on an SC. 

[G-Bob]

 

 

5 to 6K NA´s are the bottom of the market, and do not bring 9K just by slapping on an SC. 

 

 

Not any more they are not.  Most are selling for this price and only pristine ones are selling at £7-8k.

[Ssymes007]

The 0-60 question was just curiosity! The sl500 wud be going on looks and comfort with a bit of power!

[Graeme Lambert]

 

 

 

5 to 6K NA´s are the bottom of the market, and do not bring 9K just by slapping on an SC. 

 

 

Not any more they are not.  Most are selling for this price and only pristine ones are selling at £7-8k.

 

 

As an FYI chaps, I was offered two SC cars when I was looking for mine, both at around the £8.5k-£9k mark (the more expensive one was that price with hard top if I remember correctly).

 

In the end I paid around £8.5k for a car with 50k miles, recent chains on the 2.2, Nitrons, Compos with R1R, uprated toelinks, fezz heater, carbon ears, carbon binnacle, ali rad etc - though worth noting it doesn't run a chargecooler set up so not the full £3.5k investment from an NA as such.

 

When I started looking I didn't expect to find any SC cars for less than £10k. Obviously a mint one with low miles is a different story.

 

G  

[smiley]

The 0-60 question was just curiosity!

 

Stage II tubby 0-100km is about 4.4, and a stage II SC is about 4.6.

It all depends a bit on willingness to abuse the clutch, and shiftskills.

 

Both supercar teritory performance, but still a plastic skip from Northfolk in the end.

[ghand]

The 0-60 question was just curiosity!

  Stage II tubby 0-100km is about 4.4, and a stage II SC is about 4.6. It all depends a bit on willingness to abuse the clutch, and shiftskills.   Both supercar teritory performance, but still a plastic skip from Northfolk in the end.

Is the Turbo faster? Didn't see that on the road at the Hoon with Simon and Chill both stage two I think. The Turbo has a lot more Torque but the SC is geared lower isn't it ? and maybe slightly lighter. Have we had any others side by side for reference. Often wondered what the difference would be if any I would think it's not much.

[ghand]

The book 0 to 60 for the VXR is 4.2. So would the stage 2 be a little faster? I know it's spitting hairs and not what the cars all about anyway.

Edited by ghand, 27 January 2014 - 03:12 PM.

[smiley]

Like i said, a lot depends on tyres, weather, clutch abuse and shift skills.

(i´m a big pussy, and my shift from 1 to 2 takes 0.5 sec as the perfbox log shows. Those quartermile guys do it much faster)

I´ve saved a few results from the dutch forum where the numbers come from. (will paste them here when i get home)

 

i also think that comparing 0-60miles versus 0-100km has a 0.1 sec difference anyway,

 

Edited by smiley, 27 January 2014 - 03:42 PM.

[ghand]

Like i said, a lot depends on tyres, weather, clutch abuse and shift skills. (i´m a big pussy, and my shift from 1 to 2 takes 0.5 sec as the perfbox log shows. Those quartermile guys do it much faster) I´ve saved a few results from the dutch forum where the numbers come from. (will paste them here when i get home)   i also think that comparing 0-60miles versus 0-100km has a 0.1 sec difference anyway,  

I suppose 0 to 100 or higher gives you a better feel for how fast a car is. That video showing the VXT next to the 300 bhp RS focus was funny, when they did a rolling start drag as the vxt just left the Ford off the mark from stand still and it still pulled away easily. I don't suppose you meet many sub 4.5 second cars on the road. Anyway I'm staying with what is it 5.5 to just under 6 sec ish NA for now

[Bumblebee]

Maybe we need a dragstrip day lol!

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

 

 

The 0-60 question was just curiosity!

  Stage II tubby 0-100km is about 4.4, and a stage II SC is about 4.6. It all depends a bit on willingness to abuse the clutch, and shiftskills.   Both supercar teritory performance, but still a plastic skip from Northfolk in the end.

Is the Turbo faster? Didn't see that on the road at the Hoon with Simon and Chill both stage two I think. The Turbo has a lot more Torque but the SC is geared lower isn't it ? and maybe slightly lighter. Have we had any others side by side for reference. Often wondered what the difference would be if any I would think it's not much.

 

 

not a fair comparison gordon,

i was running on a very conservative map probably only around 240 bhp and i had no packing left in the exhaust,

i think the gearboxs are the same but i had a higher rev limit (i think) 

[ghand]

 

 

The 0-60 question was just curiosity!

  Stage II tubby 0-100km is about 4.4, and a stage II SC is about 4.6. It all depends a bit on willingness to abuse the clutch, and shiftskills.   Both supercar teritory performance, but still a plastic skip from Northfolk in the end.

Is the Turbo faster? Didn't see that on the road at the Hoon with Simon and Chill both stage two I think. The Turbo has a lot more Torque but the SC is geared lower isn't it ? and maybe slightly lighter. Have we had any others side by side for reference. Often wondered what the difference would be if any I would think it's not much.  

  not a fair comparison gordon, i was running on a very conservative map probably only around 240 bhp and i had no packing left in the exhaust, i think the gearboxs are the same but i had a higher rev limit (i think) 

I thought you told me yours still had the edge on Simons stage two ?

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

it did

 

[Mangham54]

Like i said, a lot depends on tyres, weather, clutch abuse and shift skills. (i´m a big pussy, and my shift from 1 to 2 takes 0.5 sec as the perfbox log shows. Those quartermile guys do it much faster) I´ve saved a few results from the dutch forum where the numbers come from. (will paste them here when i get home)   i also think that comparing 0-60miles versus 0-100km has a 0.1 sec difference anyway,  

I suppose 0 to 100 or higher gives you a better feel for how fast a car is. That video showing the VXT next to the 300 bhp RS focus was funny, when they did a rolling start drag as the vxt just left the Ford off the mark from stand still and it still pulled away easily. I don't suppose you meet many sub 4.5 second cars on the road. Anyway I'm staying with what is it 5.5 to just under 6 sec ish NA for now

And I thought that was Chris_UK... therefore not a Tubby.

[ghand]

Maybe we need a dragstrip day lol!

I quite fancy that for a change, bit different to watching folk go round and round Set one up and place your bets

[Captain Vimes]

 

    5 to 6K NA´s are the bottom of the market, and do not bring 9K just by slapping on an SC.   

  Not any more they are not.  Most are selling for this price and only pristine ones are selling at £7-8k.  

  As an FYI chaps, I was offered two SC cars when I was looking for mine, both at around the £8.5k-£9k mark (the more expensive one was that price with hard top if I remember correctly).   In the end I paid around £8.5k for a car with 50k miles, recent chains on the 2.2, Nitrons, Compos with R1R, uprated toelinks, fezz heater, carbon ears, carbon binnacle, ali rad etc - though worth noting it doesn't run a chargecooler set up so not the full £3.5k investment from an NA as such.   When I started looking I didn't expect to find any SC cars for less than £10k. Obviously a mint one with low miles is a different story.   G  

Isn't the paintwork on your car in desperate need of a full respray? If so it's not really a fair comparison. If your car had been offered for sale as a modified NA in need of a respray is value would be closer to £5k. So the SC has added a fair chunk of value still.. What was wrong with the other sc cars you are offered? High mileage? Cat c?