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[siztenboots]

can't the engine go in with the clam on,  I know the ecotecs seems a bit bulkier than the turbo , but with the gearbox off , it should come out via the top.

[ArticMonkey]

It can do but Vocky and joe didn't use a crane and we needed the space to do the full sc conversion one my car. I know Vocky had a crane at his so it's possible but he will know what's best.

[MartinS]

This has happened fairly rapidly due to my engine having a hiccup. I have had the Saab engine sitting there ready for such an occasion so my thought pattern was simply to do it. I'm not doing anything too special but it does all end up a chunk of cash and refitting a standard engine would equally not be cheap as I cant do things like that, but to be honest its too late now as I have bought all the bits and doubt I could sell them all.

The car is being driven up to sunny Milton Keynes today (if it can cover the 100 miles with a large chunk of piston missing) to have its new heart put in and all I can do, is cross my fingers and hope it comes out as good as it was, and who knows, maybe even a little better (though that's hard to imagine).

 

I am leaving the balancers in and the engine is staying as Saab intended it as a 2.0, its having Dbilas springs to give it some safety, stage 2 cams (may become my biggest mistake, but bought based on guidance from others). My costs include Vocky doing a ton of work including fitting a new fuel pump and clutch and special engine mounts to make the most of this swap time.

 

Hopefully at the end of July at Spa I will be able to smile and say this was worth doing, if not, oh crappity crap on a stick especially as I have always been one of the people who really appreciated the joy of a 250bhp vx and its usability and reliability.

 

Martin S

 

 

Edited by MartinS, 19 June 2015 - 08:58 AM.

[smiley]

The only reason you were on 250 was due to Z22SE stock limitations. These are gone now. Put a 3" pully on your M62

[fiveoclock]

The only reason he was on 250 is that that's what he was happy with. Sort of martins words, not mine

[vocky]

can't the engine go in with the clam on,  I know the ecotecs seems a bit bulkier than the turbo , but with the gearbox off , it should come out via the top.

Access is the reason the clam comes off, pure and simple

 

[MartinS]

Just back from the deep dark bowls of the north, 280 mile, 8 hour return journey aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh

 

Engine ran like a watch, quiet and quick, amazing tough things the ecotec.

 

Martin

 

 

 

[fezzasus]

so it was ticking? like a watch...

 

or a bomb...

Edited by fezzasus, 19 June 2015 - 06:12 PM.

[Bargi]

If the bit that's missing has made it out without fcuking the valves then push it till she bangs...

[MartinS]

It sounded as sweet as a nut, generally didn't go over 3500 but near the end gave it a couple of full on goes and it ran as well and as fast as ever it has.

Cant imagine any engine being better than that and am willing to bet there's limited damage inside, as whenever my car has seemingly ha d a big problem, it has 'so far' always ended up needing a simple cheap solution.

 

Martin S

 

ps Did still lose my throttle 5 times en route. That's an on-going mystery.

 

Edited by MartinS, 20 June 2015 - 06:47 AM.

[CHILL Gone DUTCH]

Have you checked the coil pack and coil pack plug Or does the engine keep running ?

Edited by CHILL Gone DUTCH, 20 June 2015 - 07:36 AM.

[vocky]

so a few pictures of Martin's B207 

 

Exhaust ports opened up, Dbilas valve springs and zzp CompCam stage 2 camshafts

 

 

Saab B207 2.0 block 

 

 

EliseParts flywheel and Courtenay clutch

 

 

cam timing sorted

 

 

 

External trigger wheel with 6 rib crank pulley and it's ready to fit 

 

 

 

Edited by vocky, 20 June 2015 - 04:53 PM.

[Nev]

It's heart warming to see you NA and SC kids using a turbo engine Te he he. Good luck.

Edited by Nev, 20 June 2015 - 05:29 PM.

[fezzasus]

did you have to drill out the holes on the clutch plate?

[Dan r]

I'd be happy spending 4k knowing you're getting a better (and shiny) new engine and everything set up and fitted perfectly for you by Vocky. A bargain I'd say

[christhegasman]

It's heart warming to see you NA and SC kids using a turbo engine Te he he. Good luck.

That new engine doesn't look like pig iron ? 😀

[vocky]

It's heart warming to see you NA and SC kids using a turbo engine Te he he. Good luck.

we all felt so sorry for you turbo guys that we had to improve the engine, so binned the turbo and made it better 

 

did you have to drill out the holes on the clutch plate?

 

 

 

yes, drill the three smaller holes out to 8.0mm 

Edited by vocky, 21 June 2015 - 09:26 AM.

[fezzasus]

Cheers, I need to fit mine next weekend/whenever my exhaust is ready.

 

Out of interest, do you extend the loom to the crank sensor or make an extra cable?

[MartinS]

First time I've seen it. Shiny.

Does it weigh the same as the old one??

 

Martin S

 

[MartinS]

Seriously is it a lump of iron like the turbos, or a light engine like the NA's. Have I just added weight to the car??

 

Martin S