163 replies to this topic

[B1RMA]

I learnt a lesson in the mid to late 80's which is why I always 'dress down' for surveys I do on industrial buildings. I had just bought myself a new BMW M5 (one of the first in the country) and also had a nice Rolex which I used to wear day to day.

Anyway I turned up at this very large factory complex and unusually I was dealing with a middle manager rather than the man at the top. He had obviously seen me drawing into the car park because he commented on the car that I had pulled in with and I said it was mine, I then stretched forward to give him a pamphlet and he immediately saw the watch.

To me it was my usual way of going about things but to this guy it was a red rag to a bull.

I didn't get the contract which was about £20K back in the 80's and to this day I am convinced he just thought I was too flash (which by the way I am not) and gave the job to a competitor.  

[Wolfstone]

He may have thought you were too expensive and perhaps about to rip him off given the flashyness.

 

Not a dig by the way, just how some customers might view contractors.  I know I sometimes do.  

Edited by Wolfstone, 03 July 2016 - 10:31 AM.

[B1RMA]

He may have thought you were too expensive and perhaps about to rip him off given the flashyness.

 

Not a dig by the way, just how some customers might view contractors.  I know I sometimes do.  

No doubt, but on the whole I concluded that most of the people I dealt with wanted a successful company, and judging by my success in gaining contracts my prices at the time were about right.

There was an era of 'loads of money' in the late 80's where being flash was not on the whole envied. 

[Mike (Cliffie)]

Hi Viz Orange Mankini!

 

[Mike (Cliffie)]

Hi Viz Orange Mankini!

 

Ah, should have read the post...

 

An Apple Watch Sprt 42mm and now don't wear any of my other 8 watches ever!

[Bargi]

Who wears a watch these days? Mobile phone is for telling the time Sent from my cuntyfuckbollock phone by Twatatalk

[Mike (Cliffie)]

My watch and I love it lol

 

That still working Lee... Epic!

 

[mark moyz]

I haven't worn a watch for the last 15 years. I've always used a mobile phone but recently a friend showed his LG smart watch and i had to get one. So i got the LG Urbane 2. Really like the ability to chose my watch face and also like the notifications and ability to make and receive calls, texts and emails. This watch will take a sim card so i can leave my phone at home on a night out.

[darronwall]

Daytona platinum

[jonnyboy]

Managed to get one of the last TAG James hunt F1's new. Not an expensive one but quite pretty. 

[Mani]

Omega snoopy Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk

[Stevie Dubyah]

I had forgotten about this thread. I must compliment FLD (Vacheron Tourbillon) and Foxy (Patek Nautilus) on their terrific taste in watches.

 

Someone mentioned a Rolex Daytona Platinum too. Very nice.

 

Mr Deviant - Any chance of a picture? (of the watch)

 

 

 

(So... he was actually being was serious, then? Not ironic?)

 

[Nev]

(So... he was actually being was serious, then? Not ironic?)

 

 

If you are referring to me, then yes I was being serious. You only have to use your common sense (or if you don't have any, then read up on the psychology) of people who desire such trinkets.  

[Stevie Dubyah]

 

Bless you, sir! I was being (very mildly, with no malice) facetious.

 

On my initial post I genuinely wasn't sure.

 

 

[Sutol]

 

(So... he was actually being was serious, then? Not ironic?)

 

 

 (or if you don't have any, then read up on the psychology)   

 

Got any links Nev?

[Nev]

 

Bless you, sir! I was being (very mildly, with no malice) facetious.

 

On my initial post I genuinely wasn't sure.

 

 

 

Okies

[Nev]

 

 

(So... he was actually being was serious, then? Not ironic?)

 

 

 (or if you don't have any, then read up on the psychology)   

 

Got any links Nev?

 

 

There must be a million threads out there, but here is one for starters: low self esteem  

Edited by Nev, 31 August 2016 - 05:29 PM.

[oblomov]

 

 

 

(So... he was actually being was serious, then? Not ironic?)

 

 

 (or if you don't have any, then read up on the psychology)   

 

Got any links Nev?

 

 

There must be a million threads out there, but here is one for starters: low self esteem  

 

But that's not what the article says.  It's speculatively non specific as in "You might also be willing purchase pricey goods for entirely internal reasons".  To be specifically correct you would have to psychoanalyse a chosen individual with an expensive watch, draw a conclusion, and that conclusion would only apply to that person.

There are people of low esteem who wear expensive watches.

There are people who do not suffer from low esteem who wear expensive watches.

There are people of high esteem who wear expensive watches.

There are people of low esteem who do not wear expensive watches.

There are people who do not suffer from low esteem who do not wear expensive watches.

There are people of high esteem who do not wear expensive watches.

There is no intrinsic connection between esteem and the watch a person wears.

Any connection will be individual specific and understood as an individual judgment.

 

To exclusively associate an expensive watch with low esteem is extrapolate a conclusion based on an assumption.

Stereotyping all people who wear expensive watches and then drawing erroneous conclusions about each as an individual is both simplistic and judgemental to the point of prejudice against anyone wearing such a watch. One could pick on any any expensive possession and take a similar judgmental attitude.

This is not the intelligent thinking with which I associate you.

.

 

I learned my lesson about stereotyping a long time ago when a Crusty came in saying he'd found a wallet.  I took one look at him and the state he was in and formed an opinion, only to have that opinion and my prejudice revealed for what it was when I opened the wallet to find about £500 in it.  It was this error of understanding on my part that first made me interested in stereotyping which I studied from an epistemological standpoint in order to understand the thought process behind my error. I then came to understand the usefulness of stereotyping in certain situations, but also its severe limitation as an analytical tool.   It needs to be applied with intelligence and circumspection rather than indiscriminately with a failure to understand the ramifications of misuse.

 

[Mangham54]

I never dug into it properly, but I once made an horrific racist remark in a drunken state and really offended a black friend. I had up until that point revelled in being inappropriate for years up until that point. I look back at my youth and am mortified at some of the things I did and said.

[casino]

Anyone else own a Bell&Ross?

Anyone else heard of Bell&Ross?