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[mbes2]

http://www.elisepart...l-toe-link-kit/ These?

[Graeme Lambert]

As everyone else has already said, sorry to see this. And likewise, the main thing is you are Ok and no-one else was involved. Hope it all works out for you. Think I might look into some new HCB and toelinks now... G

[mulletmaster]

Lol 300 for a pair? Slightly different than 63!?

[VX Boyd]

What is the extent of the damage on the pax rear then?

Sorry cliffie, missed your reply in that.

Not sure really. Axle looks bad, engine looked untouched. Its the fact the rear wheels are pointing in opposite directions (passenger side obv hit the lamp post, but wuld this then cause the drivers side to move aswell?

The fact the driver side wheel is so angled and the only tyre mark o nthe road pointed stright to that wheel seems to poitn to this toe link failure.

When the car span, did it catch the kerb? as this could also knock the rear wheels like this (both sides)

Well its finished up on the kerb but with no damage to the alloys at all. But seeing as there isnt even a (new) scratch on the alloys, and from memory, it indicates I went up the kerb pretty square so I dont see how it would offset the drivers rear.

[2.2_na]

Sorry to hear about what happened, especially if it looks like something that was no fault of yours. I've just realised that your VX was the one in that photo looking amazingly shiny, that people were complimenting a few days ago. All the best for the future.

[chris_uk]

you know, i was just thinking, if it was the toe link that failed and it was as little as 15/20 mph i would expect the wheel would wobble but you should be able to brake quick enough for it not to spin.. i wonder if the HCB failed which would of dropped the wheel completley causing a completley uncontrolable situation. sounds more link what happened. did you guys ever see that toe link fail on the elise going round combe? he still had 'some' control even at 60+ mph to start with (then he was just along for the ride) so at 20mph i would of thought you would be able to just brake and slow down enough not to cause much damage. im not trying to pick apart your story tho, just trying to work out what failed as i think HCB and toe links should be changed every other year.

[slindborg]

Lol 300 for a pair? Slightly different than 63!?

The EP ones are 'fancy' spherical bearinged items, the GM parts that are £65ish a side are normal ball joints.

[VX Boyd]

you know, i was just thinking, if it was the toe link that failed and it was as little as 15/20 mph i would expect the wheel would wobble but you should be able to brake quick enough for it not to spin.. i wonder if the HCB failed which would of dropped the wheel completley causing a completley uncontrolable situation. sounds more link what happened.

did you guys ever see that toe link fail on the elise going round combe? he still had 'some' control even at 60+ mph to start with (then he was just along for the ride) so at 20mph i would of thought you would be able to just brake and slow down enough not to cause much damage.

im not trying to pick apart your story tho, just trying to work out what failed as i think HCB and toe links should be changed every other year.

Well, I made it on to the roundabout, probably more 30-35 mph as you can see its clear for a while, started turning right and the car instantly span 180 on the spot and left me a passenger.

[mbes2]

The threads on the originals were prone to snapping while using road slicks / heavy track day use

[mulletmaster]

For 5 times the price I would expect them to fit themselves and have built in automatic toe adjustment lol!

[Wolfstone]

Really sorry to see and read this Boyd. Glad you're OK though. Little conmfort but hope you get a decent settlment from insurance.

[techieboy]

For 5 times the price I would expect them to fit themselves and have built in automatic toe adjustment lol!

Time to revist your maths, I think.

[Seb.F]

For 5 times the price I would expect them to fit themselves and have built in automatic toe adjustment lol!

Time to revist your maths, I think.

[mulletmaster]

Ah hadn't noticed it was 63 for a side rather than a pair. I read the complete kit bit of the post. Still 2.5x as expensive.

[chris_uk]

yea, i can imagine at that speed and when already cornering a toe link failure would cause a good spin.. so its hard to pinpoint exactly what happened with the components. do you know what tensile bolts you had in the hub carrier?

[garyk220]

Definitely looks like toe link. Hub carrier bolt failures tend to leave the wheel sitting too far inside the wheel arch at the top (as though it has massive negative camber) without affecting the toe setting too much as the toe link would still be connected.

[slindborg]

HCB failure would make the wheel flop about in the vertical plane..... might cause you to wobble a bit but shouldnt cause a spin at low speed imho. Toe link failing would give massive rear wheel steer and push you round within the length of the car

[VXTyrant]

I'd like to knwo who you're with Seb!

Admiral!

Stick your parent(s) on the Admiral policy - mine reduced a ridiculous amount doing that! Paid £750 or so for the year.

I'll be 25 in a couple of weeks so come my October renewal time i'll be trying the specialists

Back on topic: Sorry to hear about the accident but glad you will likely be back in a VX in the near future

[GiGo]

Sorry to see these pics mate Glad your ok

[VX Boyd]

Well, insurance is sorted for now. Got to wait to see what they come back with for an offer. Car was bought, and istead on the policy as £8000. It WAS a perfectly clean N/A with FSH pre accident so should still be able to get £8000. Luckily I never had the heart to sell my Astra Coupe so I'm back on the road for the remainder of this policy (2 months) with a £38 refund wooo (lets forget about the £800 excess ).