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[mbes2]

Aimy, have a read over this http://www.thorneymo...NA_Brakes.shtml few tips, if you dont track, then go for 1144.

[rob999]

And save money as it's not worth shelling out on 888's for road use....get RSR/R1R/AD08's if you want a semi

[Andrew aka Stuwy]

I found 1155s actually quite dangerous on the road, they need to be warm properly to work well.

2h's on the moterway off and up to round about, breaks! what breaks

Are you sure you had 55's and not 66/77's?
I never had an issue at all with 55's stopping power, even in sub zero temperatures first stop etc. Sure they were better when warm but NEVER dangerous.

Maybe I just expect too much from my breaks!

I found 1155s actually quite dangerous on the road, they need to be warm properly to work well.

2h's on the moterway off and up to round about, breaks! what breaks

its a good habit to give the brake pedal an occasional go , 2 hours on a motorway you've got plenty of spare time to do it ready for an emergency stop.

noted and taken on bored

I changed to 1144's and found them great BTW

[G-Bob]

2h's on the moterway off and up to round about, breaks! what breaks

Yeah, I usually drive for more than 2hours before I need a break too!

Back to the subject of brakes now!

[Andrew aka Stuwy]

2h's on the moterway off and up to round about, breaks! what breaks

Yeah, I usually drive for more than 2hours before I need a break too!

Back to the subject of brakes now!

[Claws]

Oh stop it, Bob!

[mbes2]

And save money as it's not worth shelling out on 888's for road use....get RSR/R1R/AD08's if you want a semi

Would Aimy want a semi ?

What are you running with now

[Mike (Cliffie)]

Yep, DOT5 should never be used. DOT5.1 is fine though.

Personally, I use RBF600 which is a DOT4 "racing" fluid which has much higher boiling points than 5.1. But I also change it as often as I change exhausts which is two or three times a year.

That's better

[techieboy]

Yep, DOT5 should never be used. DOT5.1 is fine though.

Personally, I use RBF600 which is a DOT4 "racing" fluid which has much higher boiling points than 5.1. But I also change it as often as I change exhausts which is two or three times a year.

That's better

No no. This weekend is the first time I've done anything exhaust related for a year. Only problem is, I've got 3 tailpipe options to choose from now, two of which I'm not entirely convinced will fit.

[Boombang]

The 1155 works as well as 1144 from cold, when fitted with anti-rattle pads and buffers makes no more noise, copes better with high temps when tracked, lasts a great deal longer and also produces less dust.

Only downside is technically should not be used on roads.

Why is that Alex? Are you referring to 1155 not technically to be used on roads?

No 'e mark' on 1155s and up (i.e. don't meet ECE R90) so therefore not deemed as roadworthy by EU and an MOT failure.

That said you can't actually see the markings when the pad is in the caliper, and 1155s don't look unlike a road pad as friction material is organic.


I think the issue with Stuwy's was down to a combination of the parts on there, the age of the bits and old fluid. Certainly every time I have fitted new pads to well worn discs the experience has been poor compared to new discs - this might have been the case.

[Winstar]

No 'e mark' on 1155s and up (i.e. don't meet ECE R90) so therefore not deemed as roadworthy by EU and an MOT failure.

Is that not because they offer more than 15% more stopping power?

As for pads I've not tried 1155 however in my various VX's I've had

NA - ECB Green stuff - just dangerous and the only place for ECB pads is the bin
NA - Mintex 1144 - good inital bite and stopping power on the road but found they wore out quickly
VXT - DS2500 front (4pot ) + Pagid RS14 rear - really didn't like these like dw1 found the performance well below that of 1144's
VXT - Pagid RS14 Front (4pot) + RS15 rear - awsome brake combination only down side is can squeal under light use
NA - Pagid RS42 front and Pagid RS14 rear - like above but not quite as much inital bit and very little squeal

The last ones are what I currently have but that's partly as I had the RS14 rears left over when I sold my VXT, I prefered the RS14F/RS15R combo out of all those that I've tried.

[CocoPops]

Yep, DOT5 should never be used. DOT5.1 is fine though.

Personally, I use RBF600 which is a DOT4 "racing" fluid which has much higher boiling points than 5.1. But I also change it as often as I change exhausts which is two or three times a year.

That's better

No no. This weekend is the first time I've done anything exhaust related for a year. Only problem is, I've got 3 tailpipe options to choose from now, two of which I'm not entirely convinced will fit.

Pics?

[Bumblebee]

And save money as it's not worth shelling out on 888's for road use....get RSR/R1R/AD08's if you want a semi

Would Aimy want a semi ?

What are you running with now

I'm just going to wait till I get my car back from MMG and see how the kumho (think there 39's) cope with the stage 4

[Bumblebee]

Thanks for the post of the different pads winster it now gives me something to think about Just need to decide whether I do pads or tyres first as I can't do both ATM

[Claws]

Well... I got home from work just as a man was trying to deliver 2 heavy parcels to my house. Ah! Of course, my new disks and 1155s! Fitted the fronts before dinner, such an easy job on the VX, it's a delight to work on. Took the car out briefly, they were alright, just slightly worse than what was on previously. 2 miles later, once I'd gently put some heat into them...brilliant! Proceeded to heat them up a bit more and started increasing my braking force...ABS! Ruined my car! But of course, I'd only done the fronts. So went home and had my dinner, went back out, fitted the rears and went out another drive. Same thing, heat them up gently and started increasing the braking force, ABS again! Rears were still brand new really, so went a further drive, gently heating the brakes, braking lightly far too early etc and slowly but surely the rears picked up. Got them to the stage now where I slam on the brakes, the nose dives, the car sheds a tremendous amount of speed and there is great feel for when the ABS is about to kick in. In short....Mintex 1155s = awesome pretty much from out the box.

[Boombang]

In my experience, they really perform after an absolute caning. That said after cooking the 1155s on my Saxo last time out, they took a lot of use to start working properly today. Did de-glaze the discs and pads as a matter of course. Actually have some OMP 971C racing pads to try out on the Saxo, as yet no nobody who has used them on any car (they are mentioned on the Lotus wiki brake section). If they are favourable they are potential bargain pad of the year and I do know of a supplier that is reliable. http://www.ebay.co.u...=item519f7e189c

[hughcam]

Well...

I got home from work just as a man was trying to deliver 2 heavy parcels to my house.

Ah! Of course, my new disks and 1155s!
Fitted the fronts before dinner, such an easy job on the VX, it's a delight to work on. Took the car out briefly, they were alright, just slightly worse than what was on previously. 2 miles later, once I'd gently put some heat into them...brilliant! Proceeded to heat them up a bit more and started increasing my braking force...ABS! Ruined my car! But of course, I'd only done the fronts. So went home and had my dinner, went back out, fitted the rears and went out another drive. Same thing, heat them up gently and started increasing the braking force, ABS again! Rears were still brand new really, so went a further drive, gently heating the brakes, braking lightly far too early etc and slowly but surely the rears picked up. Got them to the stage now where I slam on the brakes, the nose dives, the car sheds a tremendous amount of speed and there is great feel for when the ABS is about to kick in.

In short....Mintex 1155s = awesome pretty much from out the box.

There good arent they lol!

Edited by hughcam, 28 July 2012 - 09:12 PM.

[Claws]

My mind has been blown! I was in the bad books for giving the GF a sore neck by giving the brakes a wee jab from cold...still not properly bedded in either! awesome, can't comprehend how good they are. Negligible pricing too for brakes that work well from dot.

[siztenboots]

try using your left foot to brake, then you really appreciate that the standard setup is quite capable.

[Bargi]

I found the 1155s a good pad for road and track. From cold they were fine for normal braking but had a few squeaky bum moments when having to jump on them hard when cold at about 30-40mph. These were proper emergency stops and in 2 years of running them could only count them on one hand. IMHO they're still fine for road but 44s would be a more suitable option for mainly road use.