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#41 mafumoto

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 02:51 PM

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 08:28 AM

With regards to the gearbox I know the engine has all ancillaries Inc ecu so I'll wait till I collect on weekend and see if the tcu is there aswell Not sure if this engine came with the s-tronic or manual but I will find out saturday

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 11:13 AM

It's running around South wales Scaring the shot out of anyone brave enough to be a passenger The only car I know of with a spore drive

 

Ah, so you're the skilled man behind that project, good to hear it's finished.



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Posted 05 March 2018 - 11:49 AM

While we're talking about longitudinal engines; I remember some mad Fins: http://www.worldtime...s-from-finland/



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Posted 05 March 2018 - 12:00 PM

While we're talking about longitudinal engines; I remember some mad Fins: http://www.worldtime...s-from-finland/

Very nice

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 12:00 PM

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 12:06 PM

It's running around South wales Scaring the shot out of anyone brave enough to be a passenger The only car I know of with a spore drive

  Ah, so you're the skilled man behind that project, good to hear it's finished.
Yup will be keeping the same standard (if not higher as it's my car) of detail going into this project

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 12:55 PM

 

While we're talking about longitudinal engines; I remember some mad Fins: http://www.worldtime...s-from-finland/

Very nice

 

 

My mistake; they used a LMP2 V6 engine in transverse layout.   :huh:

 

(Well, they started the project with an Exige V6...)



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Posted 05 March 2018 - 12:55 PM

Anyway heres a little render of the projected outcome
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Hope it doesn't end up looking like...
 

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(google 'PG Elektrus'... and don't throw up too much :D )

 

Always hard to make the rear not turn into a massive flat plane.. The BMW V10 version already suffers from this a little:

 

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Hennesey Venom being a particularly nasty example of the proprtions going to hell in a handbasket IMHO..

 

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Still.. Good luck with the project! Sounds like a cool one.

 

Of course there was already the original 'Esthi' with the V6 twin turbo Audi engine:

 

 

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Currently resides in the UK..

 

Bye, Arno.



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Posted 05 March 2018 - 01:28 PM

 

Anyway heres a little render of the projected outcome
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Bye, Arno.

 

 

The major benefit the Audi's have is their very short engine combo's. The FSI V8 comes in at only 464mm. Add one of the newer transaxles with the forward placed diff, and you have a front pulley to shaft centre length of around ~500mm. I've previously checked that length wise. It will fit. Still need to mod the subframe to allow installation..

https://thefactoryfi...49&d=1491262927
 
The Esthi is a bit of a weird one. I think it ended up weighing like 1,000kg (from an original 750kg). See the pic below for the huge new subframe and poor drive shaft angle on the modified 4wd gearbox..

http://www.sandsmuse...r/series/esthi/



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Posted 05 March 2018 - 01:45 PM

You happen to know the length of the V6?

 

And for subframe I once thought about the V6 frame which is wider and has a 70mm longer wheelbase than the S2 (and 40mm longer than a VX220...) and use all the V6 suspension parts

Although a rear facing gearbox will need lots of room in the center section. (So maybe just use the pick-up positions and fabricate a tube frame)

 

 

 

 



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Posted 05 March 2018 - 02:17 PM

Wow a monster of a subframe extra 200kg just there 500 mm front to driveline good to know Got my mind set on fwd new type box with diff in front either s-tronic or manual at the mo A rear spoiler helps take away the flatness at the back a bit Maybe the stretch will only be around 6-8 inches now don't mind seeing the back of the gearbox on show through diffuser

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 02:18 PM

These engines are of a modular design (all being 90 degree V) with essentially just cylinders added to get V8 or V10. So, 464mm (V8) - 90mm (cylinder spacing) + additional drive pulley for SC (30mm?) = 405mm ish.. Engine study guides provide some high-level info:

 

V6 http://www.vaglinks....TFSI_Engine.pdf

 

V8

http://www.tbfh.org/...-StudyGuide.pdf



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Posted 05 March 2018 - 02:20 PM

Engine study guide between the cau and rs4 is an interesting read too

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 02:28 PM

Engine study guide between the cau and rs4 is an interesting read too

 

Yep, a bit more than just red painted cam covers! :lol:  



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Posted 05 March 2018 - 03:36 PM

Wonder if I can get the r8 inlet to fit

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 04:28 PM

It's pretty tall as the R8 engines uses a form of dry sump allowing the engine to be mounted pretty low.



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Posted 05 March 2018 - 05:26 PM

might be ok under an exige hood maybe



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Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:55 PM

Keeping the weight low and forward would be the aim in an Elise chassis.

 

And while talking aesthetics; that original Lotus Sport Exige does not look too shabby... :happy:

http://www.sandsmuse...sportexige.html

 

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 08:15 PM

I have a v6 c25xe sitting in the garage and always had this on my mind for a vx220 conversion but always had that nagging doubt of sticking a steel lump in the Ali tub So hence why now I've chosen the Audi v8 lump




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