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[VIX]

Well done Mick!

[PaulCP]

Well now we've had the pace car around it's time to see some decent times Only joking well done Mick

Edited by PaulCP, 11 August 2006 - 07:27 PM.

[Mick43]

Big shout to Graham - excellent tuition , as someone stated before... as it's 1:1 he quickly finds the things you need to improve on (yep a long list...)... he then demonstrate how it should be done through theory and practical exercises... I learnt a lot.... and look fwd to next track day to put into practice... he was also very complimentary on my car set-up which is nice to know and hear....

As everyone will know after they have tried this... you just know you can go faster... but it's 6 laps and six laps only... and I messed up the last two by spinning I blame the pressure of knowing just two runs left... sorry Graham..... & just knew these would have been sub 1' 32"

Still I'm very reasonably pleased with this time the Stig did 1' 31.3" in a VXT...

plus look at all the stuff behind this time.... & with Stig at the wheel and without 90kilo passenger... just shows the reward of a few mods to an already great car...

VX220 NA, Nitrons, 888s, Stage 1 (160 bhp) 1.33.05
66 Noble 1.33.1
67 Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG 1.33.2
68 Corvette Cadillac CTS-V 1.33.3
69 Renault Clio Cup 1.33.8
70 Holden Monaro 1.33.9
71 Ford Mondeo ST220 1.34.5
72 Ford Focus ST 1.34.9
73 Volvo S60R 1.35.0
74 Vauxhall Vectra VXR 1.35.3
75 Alfa Romeo 147 GTA 1.35.6
76 Lotus Elise 1.35.6
77 Aston Martin Vanquish 1.36.2
78 Renault Clio v6 1.36.2
79 Honda Civic Type-R 1.36.5
80 Saab 95 hot aero 1.37.9
81 Mazzer 1.38.0
82 Bowler Wildcat 1.39.4
83 Bentley Arnarge 1.40.8
84 Overfinch 1.44.0
85 Aston Martin DB5 1.46.0


It must have been wet when the Stig drove the Elise and Noble... ??

Edited by Mick43, 12 August 2006 - 06:53 AM.

[CocoPops]

I would guess the biggest advantage Mick had was the decent tyres.

[Timbo]

Graham, is this only open to vx owners or ex vx owners whom now drive other performance vehicles Tim

[VIX]

Graham, is this only open to vx owners or ex vx owners whom now drive other performance vehicles

What've you bought now mate?

[jazzyjeff]

the Stig did 1' 31.3" in a VXT...

It must have been wet when the Stig drove the Elise and Noble... ??

Mick, its important to remember this was original 'black' Stig posting that time. Opinions seem to be that later 'white' Stig was generally quicker than the old and might have posted a sub 1.30 if given the chance..?

Still, that doesn't take away what a great time you've set and what a marker for everyone to aim for
Well done!

JJ

[the gits]

Graham, is this only open to vx owners or ex vx owners whom now drive other performance vehicles

Tim

Actually,it's open to anyone. It just that I have only posted here, on the Lotus Elise site and the Exige site; as these are the vehicles we specialise in. (We do Noble and Honda NSX too I haven't got round to putting it up on their forums)

We have done tuition with clients in an V10 M5, and now with three clients who are M3CSL owners. (The CSL's are very impressive). Times are confidential unless the owner says it's OK!

[the gits]

NickH and Dave were down this afternoon. It should be said that their primary reason for being here was to improve their road driving and experience the limit of their cars, not to post a super-quick stiggy lap time. But they had a go anyway... good sports! Now organised in "Leaderboard" Order..... Member Name___________Car / Specification________________Time Mick43_____________VX220 NA, Nitrons, 888s, 1144s, Stage 1_______1:33.05 Dave______________VXT Regal Stage 2__________________________1:38.0 Richyroff___________VX220 NA Completely Standard_______________ 1:39:4 Amoger____________VXT TMS Stage 1___________________________1:39:4 NickH______________VXT Regal Stage 1__________________________1:42:1

Edited by the gits, 14 August 2006 - 07:09 PM.

[Dave]

It was good day out.........very much enjoyed and so much to take in. The one to one Instruction was spot on ,thanks guys all very calm and understanding of our needs. For me the learning experieace has begun.... Braking/ Throttle/ steering control were just a few of the things that that I gained the most from. Understanding the dynamics of our cars and why they do what they do...... Would I recomend this YES, well worth the money. Dave

Edited by Dave, 14 August 2006 - 07:53 PM.

[LazyDonkey]

Sold Graham, whats the deal if two of us come down together (all the way from Scotland!) ??? Is that (plus maybe a tiny bit of brake replacing) do-able in a day ?

[Dave]

Could this be a sticky topic?

Top Gear track times, length 2.82304 km

1.18.4 min - 129,63 km/h - Pagani Zonda F
1.18.9 min - 128,81 km/h - Maserati MC12
1:19.0 min - 128,52 km/h - Ferrari Enzo
1:19.0 min - 128.52 km/h - Radical SR3
1:19.5 min - 127.84 km/h - Ariel Atom
1:19.8 min - 127.36 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT
1:20.7 min - 125.93 km/h - Ascari KZ1
1:20.9 min - 125.63 km/h - Mercedes-McLaren SLR
1:21.9 min - 124.08 km/h - Ford GT
1:22.3 min - 123.49 km/h - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
1:22.3 min - 123.49 km/h - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
1:22.6 min - 123.04 km/h - Westfield XTR2
1:22.9 min - 122.59 km/h - Ferrari F430 hardtop
1:23.2 min - 122.15 km/h - Ferrari F430 softtop
1:23.7 min - 121.42 km/h - Lamborghini Murcielago (2nd run)
1:23.8 min - 121.27 km/h - Pagani Zonda C12 S
1:23.9 min - 121.13 km/h - Koenigsegg CC8S
1:24.0 min - 120.99 km/h - Ariel Atom
1:24.6 min - 120.13 km/h - TVR Sagaris
1:24.8 min - 119.85 km/h - TVR Tuscan 3.6
1:25.0 min - 119.56 km/h - Caterham R400
1:25.0 min - 119.56 km/h - Noble M12 GTO-3
1:25.x min - 119.56 km/h - Audi B7 RS4
1:25.8 min - 118.45 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo e-gear (wet)
1:26.0 min - 118.17 km/h - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-320
1:26.2 min - 117.90 km/h - BMW M5
1:26.7 min - 117.22 km/h - Porsche Cayman
1:26.8 min - 117.08 km/h - Chevrolet Corvette C6
1:26.8 min - 117.08 km/h - Ferrari 575 HGTC
1:26.9 min - 116.95 km/h - Lotus Exige S2 (wet)
1:27.0 min - 116.82 km/h - TVR T350C
1:27.1 min - 116.68 km/h - Aston Martin DB9
1:27.1 min - 116.68 km/h - Aston Martin Vanquish S
1:27.2 min - 116.55 km/h - Porsche 911 GT3 (wet)
1:27.3 min - 116.41 km/h - Spyker C8
1:27.9 min - 115.61 km/h - Wiesmann MF3
1:28.0 min - 115.49 km/h - BMW M3 CSL (Dry/Damp)
1:28.2 min - 115.23 km/h - Lotus Elise Sport 190
1:28.5 min - 114.84 km/h - Dodge Viper SRT-10 (wet)
1:28.7 min - 114.58 km/h - MTM Bimoto
1:28.9 min - 114.32 km/h - Mitsubishi EVO VIII FQ-300
1:29.0 min - 114.19 km/h - Lamborghini Murcielago
1:29.0 min - 114.19 km/h - Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG
1:29.0 min - 114.19 km/h - BMW Alpina Z8
1:29.0 min - 114.19 km/h - Mercedes-Benz CL 65 AMG
1:29.4 min - 113.68 km/h - AS One
1:29.4 min - 113.68 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX STi WR1
1:30.1 min - 112.80 km/h - Subaru Impreza Sti Type UK PPP
1:30.1 min - 112.80 km/h - Vauxhall Monaro 6.0
1:30.4 min - 112.42 km/h - Aston Martin DB7 GT
1:30.4 min - 112.42 km/h - VW Golf R32 Mk.V
1:30.9 min - 111.80 km/h - Audi S4
1:31.0 min - 111.68 km/h - Porsche 911 Turbo (wet)
1:31.3 min - 111.31 km/h - Vauxhall VX220 Turbo STIG
1:31.6 min - 110.95 km/h - Honda NSX Type-R (wet)
1:31.8 min - 110.71 km/h - BMW M3
1:31.8 min - 110.71 km/h - Mazda RX-8
1:31.8 min - 110.71 km/h - Nissan 350Z
1:31.9 min - 110.59 km/h – BMW 130i
1:32.5 min - 109.87 km/h - Lotus Esprit
1:32.8 min - 109.51 km/h - Civic Type R
1:32.9 min - 109.40 km/h - Jaguar E-Type
1:32.9 min - 109.40 km/h - Noble M12 GTO (wet)
1:32.9 min - 109.40 km/h - Seat Leon Cupra
1:33.2 min - 109.04 km/h - Mercedes SL 55 AMG (wet)
1:33.2 min - 109.04 km/h - Honda NSX Type-R (wet)
1:33.3 min - 108.93 km/h - VW Golf IV R32
1:33.4 min - 108.81 km/h - Cadillac CTS-V
1:33.7 min - 108.46 km/h - MG ZT260
1:33.7 min - 108.46 km/h - VW Golf V GTi
1:33.8 min - 108.35 km/h - Ford Focus RS
1.34.0 min - 108.11 km/h - Renault Megane 225
1:34.9 min - 107.09 km/h - Lotus Elise 111S (wet)
1:35.0 min - 106.98 km/h - Volvo S60R
1:35.2 min - 106.75 km/h - Ferrari 575 Maranello (wet)
1:35.8 min - 106.09 km/h - Citroen C4 vts
1:35.6 min - 106.31 km/h - Alfa Romeo 147 GTA
1:36.2 min - 105.64 km/h - Aston Martin V12 Vanquish (wet)
1:36.2 min - 105.64 km/h - Renault Clio V6 MKII (wet)
1:37.0 min - 104.77 km/h - Porsche Boxster (wet)
1:37.3 min - 104.45 km/h - BMW Z4 (wet)
1:37.4 min - 104.34 km/h - Honda S2000 (wet)
1:38.0 min - 103.70 km/h – VX220 Turbo DAVE
1:38.0 min - 103.70 km/h - Maserati 3200GT (wet)
1:38.0 min - 103.70 km/h - Honda Civic Type R
1:38.0 min - 103.70 km/h - Honda Civic Type R
1:39.0 min - 102.66 km/h - Subaru Impreza WRX
1:40.0 min - 101.63 km/h - Bentley Arnage T (wet)
1:46.0 min - 101.63 km/h - Aston Martin DB5

Edited by Dave, 15 August 2006 - 07:29 AM.

[NickH]

As Graham said Dave and I went there to learn about the VX and the way it behaves under certain conditions. Graham and Dean took us round for a couple of laps and it's amazing what these little plastic cars can do in the right hands For me personally it was about learning to 'feel' more from the car, when to brake, how to brake, when to turn, when not to turn, throttle control, all the things that I'd wanted to learn about but couldn't really practice on the open road. I wish I had an airfield!! The tuition from Graham and Dean was excellent, very well explained and combined with the practical side was just what I had hoped for. I'm not a fast driver, for me it's about being within my own limits where the car is under control and the ride is smooth and precise. There's nothing worse than actually scaring your passenger, I'd like to think my passenger would get out and then be quite happy to jump back in again. For anybody thinking of driver training I would very much recommend this as Graham tailors the package to suit your requirements so whether you are just starting out like me or a seasoned track day driver, you'll really benefit from it. The timed laps were just a bit of fun at the end, although not the fastest, I was very pleased compared to my initial times and it was great to get some of those corners just right and keep the car under control I'll definitely be going back in a few months Again many thanks to Graham and Dean I'm off to go and look at buying an airfield

Edited by NickH, 15 August 2006 - 09:14 AM.

[Dave]

Added the www.vx220.org times into the Stig list with average KMph & MPH Lap time Car Driver KMPH MPH 1.18.4 min Pagani Zonda F Stig 129.63 80.36 1.18.9 min Maserati MC12 Stig 128.81 79.85 1:19.0 min Ferrari Enzo Stig 128.64 79.75 1:19.0 min Radical SR3 Stig 128.64 79.75 1:19.5 min Ariel Atom Stig 127.84 79.25 1:19.8 min Porsche Carrera GT Stig 127.36 78.95 1:20.7 min Ascari KZ1 Stig 125.93 78.07 1:20.9 min Mercedes-McLaren SLR Stig 125.62 77.87 1:21.9 min Ford GT Stig 124.09 76.92 1:22.3 min Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale Stig 123.49 76.55 1:22.3 min Porsche 911 GT3 RS Stig 123.49 76.55 1:22.6 min Westfield XTR2 Stig 123.04 76.27 1:22.9 min Ferrari F430 hardtop Stig 122.59 76.00 1:23.2 min Ferrari F430 softtop Stig 122.15 75.72 1:23.7 min Lamborghini Murcielago (2nd run) Stig 121.42 75.27 1:23.8 min Pagani Zonda C12 S Stig 121.28 75.18 1:23.9 min Koenigsegg CC8S Stig 121.13 75.09 1:24.0 min Ariel Atom Stig 120.99 75.00 1:24.6 min TVR Sagaris Stig 120.13 74.47 1:24.8 min TVR Tuscan 3.6 Stig 119.85 74.29 1:25.0 min Caterham R400 Stig 119.56 74.12 1:25.0 min Noble M12 GTO-3 Stig 119.56 74.12 1:25.x min Audi B7 RS4 Stig 119.56 74.12 1:25.8 min Lamborghini Gallardo e-gear (wet) Stig 118.45 73.43 1:26.0 min Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-320 Stig 118.17 73.26 1:26.2 min BMW M5 Stig 117.90 73.09 1:26.7 min Porsche Cayman Stig 117.22 72.66 1:26.8 min Chevrolet Corvette C6 Stig 117.08 72.58 1:26.8 min Ferrari 575 HGTC Stig 117.08 72.58 1:26.9 min Lotus Exige S2 (wet) Stig 116.95 72.50 1:27.0 min TVR T350C Stig 116.82 72.41 1:27.1 min Aston Martin DB9 Stig 116.68 72.33 1:27.1 min Aston Martin Vanquish S Stig 116.68 72.33 1:27.2 min Porsche 911 GT3 (wet) Stig 116.55 72.25 1:27.3 min Spyker C8 Stig 116.41 72.16 1:27.9 min Wiesmann MF3 Stig 115.62 71.67 1:28.0 min BMW M3 CSL (Dry/Damp) Stig 115.49 71.59 1:28.2 min Lotus Elise Sport 190 Stig 115.23 71.43 1:28.5 min Dodge Viper SRT-10 (wet) Stig 114.84 71.19 1:28.7 min MTM Bimoto Stig 114.58 71.03 1:28.9 min Mitsubishi EVO VIII FQ-300 Stig 114.32 70.87 1:29.0 min Lamborghini Murcielago Stig 114.19 70.79 1:29.0 min Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG Stig 114.19 70.79 1:29.0 min BMW Alpina Z8 Stig 114.19 70.79 1:29.0 min Mercedes-Benz CL 65 AMG Stig 114.19 70.79 1:29.4 min AS One Stig 113.68 70.47 1:29.4 min Subaru Impreza WRX STi WR1 Stig 113.68 70.47 1:30.1 min Subaru Impreza Sti Type UK PPP Stig 112.80 69.92 1:30.1 min Vauxhall Monaro 6.0 Stig 112.80 69.92 1:30.4 min Aston Martin DB7 GT Stig 112.42 69.69 1:30.4 min VW Golf R32 Mk.V Stig 112.42 69.69 1:30.9 min Audi S4 Stig 111.80 69.31 1:31.0 min Porsche 911 Turbo (wet) Stig 111.68 69.23 1:31.3 min Vauxhall VX220 Turbo STIG Stig 111.31 69.00 1:31.6 min Honda NSX Type-R (wet) Stig 110.95 68.78 1:31.8 min BMW M3 Stig 110.71 68.63 1:31.8 min Mazda RX-8 Stig 110.71 68.63 1:31.8 min Nissan 350Z Stig 110.71 68.63 1:31.9 min BMW 130i Stig 110.59 68.55 1:32.5 min Lotus Esprit Stig 109.87 68.11 1:32.8 min Civic Type R Stig 109.51 67.89 1:32.9 min Jaguar E-Type Stig 109.40 67.81 1:32.9 min Noble M12 GTO (wet) Stig 109.40 67.81 1:32.9 min Seat Leon Cupra Stig 109.40 67.81 1:33.2 min Mercedes SL 55 AMG (wet) Stig 109.04 67.60 1:33.2 min Honda NSX Type-R (wet) Stig 109.04 67.60 1:33.3 min VW Golf IV R32 Stig 108.93 67.52 1:33.4 min Cadillac CTS-V Stig 108.81 67.45 1:33.0 min VX220 NA Mick43 109.22 67.71 1:33.7 min MG ZT260 Stig 108.46 67.24 1:33.7 min VW Golf V GTi Stig 108.46 67.24 1:33.8 min Ford Focus RS Stig 108.35 67.16 1.34.0 min Renault Megane 225 Stig 108.12 67.02 1:34.9 min Lotus Elise 111S (wet) Stig 107.09 66.39 1:35.0 min Volvo S60R Stig 106.98 66.32 1:35.2 min Ferrari 575 Maranello (wet) Stig 106.75 66.18 1:35.8 min Citroen C4 vts Stig 106.09 65.76 1:35.6 min Alfa Romeo 147 GTA Stig 106.31 65.90 1:36.2 min Aston Martin V12 Vanquish (wet) Stig 105.64 65.49 1:36.2 min Renault Clio V6 MKII (wet) Stig 105.64 65.49 1:37.0 min Porsche Boxster (wet) Stig 104.77 64.95 1:37.3 min BMW Z4 (wet) Stig 104.45 64.75 1:37.4 min Honda S2000 (wet) Stig 104.34 64.68 1:38.0 min VX220 Turbo Dave 103.70 64.29 1:38.0 min Maserrati 3200GT (wet) Stig 103.70 64.29 1:38.0 min Honda Civic Type R Stig 103.70 64.29 1:39.0 min Subaru Impreza WRX Stig 102.66 63.64 1:39.4 min VX220 NA Richyroff 102.24 63.38 1:39.4 min VX220 Turbo Amoger 102.24 63.38 1:40.0 min Bentley Arnage T (wet) Stig 101.63 63.00 1:42.1 min VX220 Turbo NickH 099.54 61.70 1:46.0 min Aston Martin DB5 Stig 095.88 59.43 sorry if there are any errors Dave

[Amoger]

There's nothing worse than actually scaring your passenger, I'd like to think my passenger would get out and then be quite happy to jump back in again

Personally I like to see them reach for something to hold on to at least once during a trip....

[VIX]

I'm off to go and look at buying an airfield

You could always rent Bruntingthorpe:

The charge for 'shared' use is £50.00 per vehicle per hour (min 2 hrs) or £150.00 per 1/2 day (4 hrs) or £250.00 per 8 hr day (all + vat).
Please note that all vehicles using the test track must be silenced to road-legal standard (less than 98 dba at the exhaust). Noisy vehicles will be stopped immediately!

[NickH]

There's nothing worse than actually scaring your passenger, I'd like to think my passenger would get out and then be quite happy to jump back in again

Personally I like to see them reach for something to hold on to at least once during a trip....

Yes there is that and yes that did happen but not to the extent where people feel uncomfortable with erratic moves that show little or no control

[the gits]

Sold

Graham, whats the deal if two of us come down together (all the way from Scotland!) ??? Is that (plus maybe a tiny bit of brake replacing) do-able in a day ?

The driver training and brake replacing is do-able in a day. Only you can judge if the driving down from Scotland is do-able in a day.

For two people at once we use two instructors... three people three instructors. So the deal is the same - £179.00 per person including VAT.

[Mick43]

Added the www.vx220.org times into the Stig list with average KMph & MPH

sorry if there are any errors

Dave

But you haven't deducted 2 secs due to 90kg ballast penalty....

[Jase_MK]

Nice driving Mick. Wish I still had the VX to come down and give you a run for your money