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[rob999]

Noticeably better; a shed load more torque for starters

[VXT Tim]

Different league. Somebody once said the jump from standard to 2 is more noticeable than the jump from 2 to 4.

[Duncan VXR]

The jump from oe to full stage 2 can be more then 2-4 but depends on spec - l/b fly, larger intake pipes etc etc all make a difference and if you have everything but a CC or IC, VXR injectors and a remap (oh and VXR turbo) then it is still a big difference but would say having most of the good bits the biggest hit for the money is going to stg 2 I find oe feels...........well slow even though it is still very quick and covers ground quick. N/a feels like my 1st car in terms of power Strange how you just get used to a certain level of power and once there for a while everything else just seems slow never should a lambo feel ok in a straight line VX soaks up the power soo well that it does not always feel as crazy as a high powered fwd hatch as an example but next to each other the difference is clear DG

[VXT Tim]

DG what, roughly, would you say is the limit in terms of feasible peak bhp/lbft the milltek (2.75) will deliver with pretty much stage 4 spec gubbins? Ta

[turbobob]

I'm in Borrowash. I think I do recall you saying that you are in Hilton, as you and PaulusH have had a rendezvous in the romantic supermarket car park didn't you ?

No, it was another calypso n/a I spotted in the car park (and never got to the bottom of who it was!)
Then some time later ran into Paulus H around the roundabouts of Hilton. I followed him for a bit and he pulled over for a quick chat.
What would you say the stage 2 is like vs the standard tubby ?....a nice little bit extra or massively better ?

As others have said, the stage 2 is soo much better than standard. Whilst the other half wasn't impressed, I'm really glad I made the change.

Somebody else used this phrase, "the stage 2 made the VX220 the car it should be". Quite right.

[Duncan VXR]

DG what, roughly, would you say is the limit in terms of feasible peak bhp/lbft the milltek (2.75) will deliver with pretty much stage 4 spec gubbins?
Ta

Think 290 is realistic Tim - some make a bit more but certainly the 2.5 version seems to hold back at 280's and 3" seem to have another 10bhp to release but they do vary. Also which cat used etc plays a part

You want a nice spread of power rather than peak power would have 290 over a few hundred rpm over 300 for 100rpm every day of the week

sure 350ft/lb has been had but would need to look at the graphs

DG

[VXT Tim]

Cheers guru x

[Winstar]

DG what, roughly, would you say is the limit in terms of feasible peak bhp/lbft the milltek (2.75) will deliver with pretty much stage 4 spec gubbins?
Ta

once again there is no such thing as a 2.75" miltek they are all 2.5"

My old courtenay stg 4 (now P11COV's) made 295 bhp and 305 lbft with a 2.5" miltek

[iVXT]

How much would you guys say a vxt can comfortably handle while still running on oe Bilstein's & Bridgestones just out of interest? Interesting thread here. Cheers.

[techieboy]

Surely that's defined by your control of your right foot and to a lesser degree the condition of the tyres and suspension?

[VXT Tim]

DG what, roughly, would you say is the limit in terms of feasible peak bhp/lbft the milltek (2.75) will deliver with pretty much stage 4 spec gubbins?
Ta

once again there is no such thing as a 2.75" miltek they are all 2.5"

My old courtenay stg 4 (now P11COV's) made 295 bhp and 305 lbft with a 2.5" miltek

Ok thanks more than enough.

[darronwall]

does liam post on here? whats his username,i would like to pm him i cant send or receive email at the moment so pm is ideal cheers darronchinky chinky

[Duncan VXR]

does liam post on here? whats his username,i would like to pm him
i cant send or receive email at the moment so pm is ideal cheers darronchinky chinky

Not very often as he gets stuck on the phone most of the day as it is he is on holiday atm. Quickest and easiest way is to call

DG

[WrightStuff]

I'm in Borrowash. I think I do recall you saying that you are in Hilton, as you and PaulusH have had a rendezvous in the romantic supermarket car park didn't you ?

No, it was another calypso n/a I spotted in the car park (and never got to the bottom of who it was!)
Then some time later ran into Paulus H around the roundabouts of Hilton. I followed him for a bit and he pulled over for a quick chat.
What would you say the stage 2 is like vs the standard tubby ?....a nice little bit extra or massively better ?

As others have said, the stage 2 is soo much better than standard. Whilst the other half wasn't impressed, I'm really glad I made the change.

Somebody else used this phrase, "the stage 2 made the VX220 the car it should be". Quite right.

At what bhp/lbft do you need to consider overstressing/heat management in other components and think about upgrading them ?
Since the big names in tuning: Courtenays, Thorney, MMG etc seem to offer a stage 2 package consisting of just a remap+exhaust+airbox mod I presume they deliberately reign the map in if everything else on the car is standard ?

Wrighty

[VXT Tim]

My car has been running a stage 2, 241bhp 283lbft for over 3 years, no airbox mod. Just a full milltek and a map. Had no issues.

[turbobob]

I think something like 250 - 260 bhp and 280lb/ft you may want to think about your clutch. Otherwise overstressing you are talking stage 4 plus really (although to get stage 4, you will need injectors and turbo). Pah, 241 bhp Tim You need to get a real stage 2

[iVXT]

I think something like 250 - 260 bhp and 280lb/ft you may want to think about your clutch. Otherwise overstressing you are talking stage 4 plus really (although to get stage 4, you will need injectors and turbo).

Pah, 241 bhp Tim You need to get a real stage 2

What would you guys say for best full exhaust system at the moment Chris Tullett, Larini or any other suggestions?

Cheers

[turbobob]

I think something like 250 - 260 bhp and 280lb/ft you may want to think about your clutch. Otherwise overstressing you are talking stage 4 plus really (although to get stage 4, you will need injectors and turbo).

Pah, 241 bhp Tim You need to get a real stage 2

What would you guys say for best full exhaust system at the moment Chris Tullett, Larini or any other suggestions?

Cheers

Personal preference really and what stage you are looking at. Stage 4 you would be better with a 3" exhaust. I think for Stage 2, the 2.5 or 2.75" is better tuned than a 3".

As for brand, well I love the sound of my Milltek. But all the other exhausts are favoured by others, i.e. Chris Tullet, 2ubular etc.

[Duncan VXR]

Latest revised 2bluar out now (few small changes made for even better fit to stop undertray fouling and has a shorter 90deg bend etc) - got 2 turning up next week and had no problems myself with the quality - tillet looks like a nice but if kit also but time frames for me favour Jims ones DG

[techieboy]

but time frames for me favour Jims ones

There's something I never I thought I'd read when it comes to 2Bular.