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[YorkieAndrew]

You sure he hasn't missed a 0 of the end of that lol

Exactly what I thought! I'll join the queue if it comes up a treat. A nice respray for less than 1k! Where do I sign...?

[Claws]

Seems a fair price for paint tbh, any filler, primer and lacquer will be in his stock, so just the blue to buy in specifically for the job and the guy will still make a couple of hundred pounds after doing a favour

[Acidpopstar]

Seems a fair price for paint tbh, any filler, primer and lacquer will be in his stock, so just the blue to buy in specifically for the job and the guy will still make a couple of hundred pounds after doing a favour

Exactly.

[Zuber]

Sorry to hear about your crash. Been there quite recently.

 

Amazing price for the repair. I'm paying way more... Full respray for £400. Next time I'm sending the car north.

 

Not read every post, so not sure if it is still relevent. But regarding your insurance offer. That sounds way low to me. I managed to negotiate £6000 and mine was already a writeoff. I'd point them to autotrader and show them some ads...

[Acidpopstar]

Sorry to hear about your crash. Been there quite recently. Amazing price for the repair. I'm paying way more... Full respray for £400. Next time I'm sending the car north. Not read every post, so not sure if it is still relevent. But regarding your insurance offer. That sounds way low to me. I managed to negotiate £6000 and mine was already a writeoff. I'd point them to autotrader and show them some ads...

Yeah I'm hoping to negotiate more and have sent them some adverts as back up so just playing a waiting game now. My car was in average condition with high miles (96k) so not confident they will up their offer but worth a shot.

[G-Bob]

Sorry to hear about your crash. Been there quite recently. Amazing price for the repair. I'm paying way more... Full respray for £400. Next time I'm sending the car north. Not read every post, so not sure if it is still relevent. But regarding your insurance offer. That sounds way low to me. I managed to negotiate £6000 and mine was already a writeoff. I'd point them to autotrader and show them some ads...

Yeah I'm hoping to negotiate more and have sent them some adverts as back up so just playing a waiting game now. My car was in average condition with high miles (96k) so not confident they will up their offer but worth a shot.

Mine was on that mileage/condition and was a cat d. It sold for £4650. A straight one with no cat status should go for a grand more than that.

[Barton]

£400 for a full respray surely you'll need new seals that would be half that!? good luck with your claim mate hope you get what you want 👍

[jonnyboy]

£400 for a respray? That doesnt make any logical financial sense if its been done to any sort of standard I'm afraid.

 

I pay £250 for a hardtop painting!

[Acidpopstar]

Well the proof will be in the pudding, and I don't mind testing that pudding's quality before sharing with the rest of you  . Form a queue.

 

Now, on the crashing theme I was on my home from work today and watched in horror as a Nissan Note driving directly in front of me lost the back end on a notoriously greasy roundabout coming out of Sunderland. He did the side to side slidey thing before spinning off up a kerb, across a verge then fifteen foot down into a ditch before crashing into a sizeable bush. I pulled over immediately in rush hour traffic (no fecker else even slowed down) and ran down to the car. It was an old fella (again) who was understandably in shock. I climbed half way down the bank, grabbed his hand and pulled him up then had a quick chat to make sure he was OK. To make things worse his wife, who is disabled and can't walk was in the passenger seat. He found his Green Flag card and phone and asked me to call them as he couldn't operate the phone. They took his details and in the meantime I scrambled down the bank to check on the old dear. She was physically fine but could barely speak she was so upset the poor thing. Anyway, he thanked me and sent me on my way as Green Flag said they would be there shortly so off I went. 

 

A request - can everybody please STOP CRASHING? My heart can't take it.

 

And when are we going to start checking the older generation's driving abilities so they stop being a danger to themselves and others? He must have passed his test 50 years ago. Was there even a proper test 50 years ago?? I know it gives him and his disabled wife independence but he could have killed them both. 

 

 

[jonnyboy]

Good Karma in the bank might help with the respray

 

If it turns out to be any good I've got a LOT of work for him here!

[Captain Vimes]

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And when are we going to start checking the older generation's driving abilities so they stop being a danger to themselves and others? He must have passed his test 50 years ago. Was there even a proper test 50 years ago?? I know it gives him and his disabled wife independence but he could have killed them both. 

 

 

 

Just 2 days ago on the BBC there was a short story on the number of old drivers - seems its growing with over 4 million 70+ year old drivers now on the road with no need to take a retest:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24199783

 

We need the top gear car to be made commercially available:

 

[tbs30stm]

And when are we going to start checking the older generation's driving abilities so they stop being a danger to themselves and others? He must have passed his test 50 years ago. Was there even a proper test 50 years ago?? I know it gives him and his disabled wife independence but he could have killed them both.     

Every day at work I feel like saying "what the hell are you doing on the road!?" The kind of crashes I deal with at work because of old people are genuinely frightening! I remember one elderly lady was driving into a car park when the barrier closed onto her roof, she panicked and then managed to total 8 other cars by keeping her foot down in an automatic! This happens a lot too!

[Mangham54]

Let's not bash the elderly particularly (I await comments of 'hypocrite', based on a similar discretion a few years back). But berate the system we have full stop. I could list a number of people who shouldn't be on the road, as their driving standards are too poor. Granted the majority are elderly (though more infirm, than necessarily just being elderly), but I could cite a number of under 30's who possess no justifiable entitlement (other than a driving license) to be allowed on the road. I still do think that a 5 or 10yr reassessment should be part of our driving culture. It would pick up on those with poor eyesight, that never visit the opticians.

Edited by Mangham54, 25 September 2013 - 09:59 PM.

[Acidpopstar]

I agree with that bud. Just had two very recent incidents with elderly people so it's in the front of my mind at the mo. Hope they're ok.

[Zuber]

Let's not bash the elderly particularly (I await comments of 'hypocrite', based on a similar discretion a few years back). But berate the system we have full stop. I could list a number of people who shouldn't be on the road, as their driving standards are too poor. Granted the majority are elderly (though more infirm, than necessarily just being elderly), but I could cite a number of under 30's who possess no justifiable entitlement (other than a driving license) to be allowed on the road. I still do think that a 5 or 10yr reassessment should be part of our driving culture. It would pick up on those with poor eyesight, that never visit the opticians.

 

I like the idea of a 5-10 yearly reassesment. I reckon government would be up for that. Think of the extra jobs it would create

 

But most people (myself included) would fail their driving test if they had to take it again a few years later.

 

For the vast majority of people (imho), there is a big difference betwen how you drive for a driving test and how you normally drive. Maybe if they made the retest a simpler sort of basic vaildation, it could work.  Otherwise, it would be unpopular with voters...

[2deano5]

 

But most people (myself included) would fail their driving test if they had to take it again a few years later.

 

 

I think you'd be surprised,  Good driving is mostly about attitude.

 

I took my motorcycle test 15 years after passing my car one. So I obviously was driving with the right attitude and passed with two minors (both for cancelling  indicators in a filter lane). Most people could be good drivers but most also have a lazy/aggressive/distracted attitude so then drive bad. 

[TazN]

Otherwise, it would be unpopular with voters...

 

And that's the problem. If something wont get them votes it wont be put forward.

 

I help run a care agency and could tell you some stories that would make you never want to go on the road. Eye sight testing regularly to keep your licence valid is one thing that should be compulsory.

 

Acid, I wait for pics of the respray. If you've seen his quality then I'm sure it will be fine but that is an incredibly cracking deal. Good luck with the repairs!

Edited by TazN, 26 September 2013 - 10:06 AM.

[fezzasus]

Unlike the drivers, the debate over retesting never gets old.

 

There really isn't a simple answer to it, while it's inevitable that your reactions and awareness will become worse with age, there isn't one trend that can be applied to everyone so hardly fair to establish a single cut off point where they must retest. Adding to that there are rapid onset conditions which can rapidly drop the persons ability to drive, retesting every five years may fail to catch it, and these conditions can happen at any time - Joe is an example of this.

 

The catch all solution would be to have regular testing throughout the duration of holding a drivers license. If your car gets tested every year, why not the driver? However who is willing to pay for that to take place? and how does this fit into EU driving licences which can be used here but may have very different standards they need to meet while testing.

[Zuber]

I agree Tom, it wouldn't be bullet proof.

 

But I think a 5 year retest system would be a realistic ambition and would catch a major portion of those with issues. Also, it wouldn't be based on age, so not disciminatory. Might even bring the insurance premiums down.

 

A proposal for a 1 year system would never get past the starting line and would be a major burdon on us poor motorists

 

In terms of winning people (voters) over. I suspect organisations like the AA, RAC, Safety organisations etc. would probably back something like this.

 

Am I too late for the Lib Dem Party conferance?

Edited by Zuber, 26 September 2013 - 11:11 AM.

[Tibbles Stryker]

I'll be honest with you all..... I feel as though condemning the elderly to their armchairs is ridiculous. People still have a right to live and to many a car is their life line!!! Perhaps we should all be taught to have a raised awareness of elderly drivers and offer them a little more support, remember we'll all be old one-day